The Padman askes what the advantage of detergent free cleaning is?

Funny he should ask, if I understand it right his biggest job each year is a government office in his home state, and he gets it every year at a much higher price per sq ft than the competition because he uses a product that he claims to be environmentally friendly and does not contain any harmful chemicals such as those found in normal cleaning detergents.

Padman you know the answer to detergnet free cleaning.

Higher prices for your services, that is until the competition catches up to you

The funny thing is Cleanex.....companies will just claim that they have gone the DFC way... no one knows what's in the bottle.

I personally don't think that the general public is aware of this type of cleaning or cares....  it's going to take a lot of promotion from carpet cleaners that use the product to educate the customers...

DFC has a very long way to go, and without goverment regulation will most likely fall by the wayside...

y'all might say.... "way of the future"  I say "this will go un-noticed"

After reading my above post, I don't want you guys to try or adapt the  Detergent Free Cleaning system. I want it all to myself so I can get those jobs at a double the price per sq ft that we now charge.

DETERGENT FREE CLEANING DOES NOT WORK SPREAD THE WORD.

THANK YOU AND THINK GREEN

Steamer, you can stay in the box, or you can look outside of the box.

We have always tried to be on the leading edge of this business and we have been very successful over the past 38 years by taking this approach to our business.

No doubt you can succeed by staying status quo, and many cleaners will do so, but that only makes it easier for me when I quote against that type of competition.

Our biggest account makes us prove what is in the bottle so don't think that the day is not coming when it will not be a big issue.

All I can say is be prepared, you may never need to prove what chemicals you use, and I hope for all carpet cleaners sake they never need to do so, but God help you if it ever happens.

Steamer I am sure that you carry MSDS sheets in your truck for all chemicals, and they up to date-----RIGHT>

cleanex... actually I don't think DFC cleaning is going to help you or hurt you....  I'm sure if you mention it to your existing customers, they won't want to pay more for it. They'll say just use the stuff that you've been using all the other times...

I think it's the cleaner thats going to have to eat the DFC costs, but one will do it because of their own personal health...and also knowing it's truly safe for the customers..

it's doesn't sound real if you try and up the price and get more money per sq ft... it's sounds like an excuse to raise your price..

if your doing the right thing DO IT... don't charge for it

LOL, there's none so blind as those that refuse to see!

Steamy's glasses must be all fogged up.

Well Harry stop talking in circles and explain your post...

actually cleanex I was one of the first to mention carrying MSDS forms in your truck  last year or so..

it's a 1000 dollar fine per chem if you don't...

I thought it was pretty obvious, Steamer that I am in favour of safer chems primarily for us CC'ers that have the most exposure but also for our customers and our planet.

I'm sure you don't spray solvents around and that you would agree that Butyls were very effective but probably don't use them.

Old Dylan song, Steamer about how change is so scary to some folks.

Don has made more mistakes than most of us and that is why I pay attention to his views but don't always agree. Just keep an open mind, watch and learn. Lets face it when we all first heard about encapping or about Padding it all seemed absurd, keep an open mind.

For four posts you talk to yourself Steamer?

Yes Don, just trying to get into another topic is all.

For those that do not clean green, that is fine, our largest accounts DEMAND it and tip thier hat to VLM instead of HWE because of it.

you are all crazy!

not one of you have a clue!

we have been cleaning green for years!

green paint green nailpolish green snot

well let me see the light... are all the ingredients listed on the side of the DFC bottle?????

when all the ingredients are listed then and only then will I believe that we are cleaning totally green

Here I go again-----" having a battle of wits with an unarmed person"

Steamer kiss my DFC Bottle, it is so safe it does not need to list ingredients, and I could care less if you ever use it or even try it----Have a great day and you should thank those cleaners that have survived for many years, and made it soooooooooo easy for people like you to  even survive in this business.

I try to clean green but honestly I hear

"bring some real strong chemicals" alot more than I hear

"bring some real safe chemicals"

I'd say 90% or more of my customers could care less what I use

Andy I think you're the only smart guy around here!

Tell it like it is!

We could learn a lot from you!

YOu h ave to be a bit ignorant to think a manufacturer is going to spend a fortune creating a product and then list everything in it.

Cheap assed cleaners somehow think they should have all the answers for free.

Profit is for those who DO, not for those who WANT.

Dad always said that if you want something CREATE it otherwise wish in one hand and sh*t in the other and see which one fills up first.

No you think you are that no secret, the truth is that you are NOT!

You are just a puppet pulled by strings.

Drink up your DFC it'll make you BIG and STRONG.

that's a good boy Donnie Osmond. You Sir are a star

Who cares about Dons record!

He is an info - puppet for Chemspec!

He got free chemical to clean with!

He is hear to promote chemicals!

He has no idea whats in them!

Drink up DFC you fools!

I suppose it's not fair on my part to knock a product that I know nothing about, but I have seen lots of miracle claims come and go without success. I'll sit quiet and ride this one out until I get my sample from Adwa or Chemspec and I will give my truthful opinion. Trust me, I am not on anybodys payroll and a puppet to no one. I call it as it is, and I will test it on everything.

                             Nightrider

I was talking about you and only you Adwa!

I have no beef with Ted or His wife!