Injured O/O
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Topic: Injured O/O
Posted By: Steaminpile
Subject: Injured O/O
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 12:19pm
what do you owner operators do when you get injured or plan to do??
I hurt my knee late Saturday and can't work for ????
go see the specialist tomorrow
I might just hire someone with experience??
I've got plenty of insurance but don't wanna lose customers
------------- A.K.A.
Andy
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Posted By: Teflondonster
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 12:26pm
Sell Glides. There is lots of money doing that, and almost everyone is doing it. Just don't sell those $15.95 models put out by the Nightglider. No future in them as they last for your lifetime is what i heard.
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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 12:36pm
The 39.95 are the ones that will last , the 15.95 ones should last over a year of constant use everyday, if you don't work winters they should last you 2 years. You get what you pay for, but at that price how can you lose.
Nightrider
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 1:08pm
Tef: I think you got your facts wrong. It was the Nightrider who clearly said that the ceramic glides were the ones that will get the lifetime warrantee, not the other cheaper model. Nightrider also says above that he expects that model to last 3 to 4 years. That means when it wears out, he will have to charge you a very good rate on the shipping to pay for all those free glides you will be receiving over your lifetime.
As for the $15.95 model you got confused on, just read what Nightrider said in his original post when he said that he was going to make glides.He said it will be "utterly industructable". He then said above that it would last about a year or 2 in use. That is where you might have got confused, thinking that "utterly industructable" might mean the same as lifetime. I knew better.I knew exactly what Nightrider was trying to say cause I have been making glides for a few years now eh, and can read between the lines on these things.
SGK
------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs.
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 1:08pm
Sell SGK glides, I've heard that they are the best. Over and over and over and over........
I'm starting to believe it. Oh wait, no I'm not. I'm starting to lose it
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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 1:15pm
Kenny........why don't you just worry about your own glides and forget what other people are doing, don't trouble yourself what I say and do.................am I the centre of your universe.............find other things to talk about than glides.............
Nightrider
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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 1:16pm
yeah like what to do when an owner operator is injured
------------- A.K.A.
Andy
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 1:34pm
Okay Andy. The best thing to do is carry disability insurance, like I do. This can be purchased so that you receive 60% of your average weekly wage that you have been making the last year.As long as that has been a good one, that is your best bet. If you do not qualify for this type of insurance, or if your wages were lower that year, the next best thing to do is buy direct from WCB. More of a paperwork hassle if you are injured than the first choice, but sometimes that is all you can get. None of this helps now, if you are injured however.
For the here and now situation, I would make sure you have at least 2 companies ready to subcontract your work for you. If you charge average rates, this should be possible at about 50% of the gross invoice amount. Have a few magnetic signs made up with the name of your company on them. Have your contractor use them on any unlettered vans they may have. That is best. Otherwise, you may have to accept lettered vans with a different company name do the work for you. The longer term answer is to always have at least 2 TMs with 1 or more employees working for you. That way, your health does not determine what gets cleaned.More headaches to be sure, but you grow this way and stay in business regardless of your state of health.
Sorry that this happened to you.
Ken
------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs.
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Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 1:38pm
I have a very unusual circumstance in that i get along with a few of my
competitors. One helped in the middle of a job when my van broke down.
and when he has overage and can't possible get to it he refers me and i
do likewise. We advise the customer to please call their main cleaner back
next time as we are doing this as a favor to each other.
Short of that you have to buy some time from your loyal customers or
hire a person temporarily . I had a walking cast on for 6 weeks and just
moved hosed etc. for my worker he had to do most of the work. I
measured , did the raking and the billing out.
It's not easy I'm sure. If I were in your area I'd be helping you...
but I'm Not. Anybody else from the board close enough to help ?????
Good Luck
Gordie
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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 2:55pm
well I AM friends with most of the cleaners in town
very close with 2 of them because I send them flood work and I worked for one of them
I do have insurance,and WCB but would rather not make a claim with WCB.
Was thinking of hiring someone anyways but it's kinda tough to train with me being a gibble
------------- A.K.A.
Andy
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 3:16pm
Pretty bad timing dude to get hurt. What were you doing on your knee's?? Hope she was on her elbow's. LOL!!
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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 5:27pm
Superglide Ken wrote:
Okay Andy. The best thing to do is carry disability insurance, like I do. This can be purchased so that you receive 60% of your average weekly wage that you have been making the last year.As long as that has been a good one, that is your best bet. If you do not qualify for this type of insurance, or if your wages were lower that year, the next best thing to do is buy direct from WCB. More of a paperwork hassle if you are injured than the first choice, but sometimes that is all you can get. None of this helps now, if you are injured however.
For the here and now situation, I would make sure you have at least 2 companies ready to subcontract your work for you. If you charge average rates, this should be possible at about 50% of the gross invoice amount. Have a few magnetic signs made up with the name of your company on them. Have your contractor use them on any unlettered vans they may have. That is best. Otherwise, you may have to accept lettered vans with a different company name do the work for you. The longer term answer is to always have at least 2 TMs with 1 or more employees working for you. That way, your health does not determine what gets cleaned.More headaches to be sure, but you grow this way and stay in business regardless of your state of health.
Sorry that this happened to you.
Ken your med's must be working this post is the most stable answer I have heard from you in a long time. It was written dripping with honestly. You are having a good day, keep up the good work.
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Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 6:26pm
Andy why would you pay into WCB and not collect??
that is the friggin purpose.
WCB in B.C. is actually fairly accommodating towards their premium assessments.
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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 7:38pm
by the time I collect anything I'll be back to work??
------------- A.K.A.
Andy
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 7:55pm
Adwa: Generally when you step into the lunney bin, you must be prepared to blend in with the rest of the inmates there so as to not stand out from the group too much. Every once in a while, I actually forget where I am and give an answer that I would on the outside.
------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs.
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 7:57pm
Ken was having a moment. We can only hope this happens more often
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 7:58pm
Steamin... you don't have a helper or back up guy???? You got to get someone and go with them... even if your just going to sit in the van...
The customers will appreciate your commitment....
I know how you feel...I work in pain a lot of times, because my brother is the only one I trust. If he's too busy or not available I take two advil and head out
------------- www.mr-steamer.com
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Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 8:08pm
T 3's work better steamer.
------------- nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 8:12pm
danmarck it's nice to have friends in the biz isn't it. i too have few guys i send work to and who send work to me.
------------- nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 11/April/2005 at 11:36pm
When I die, My wish is to have a trail of TM 's on the way out to the
cemetery. ( Hopefully most will not be there just to witness the event and
make sure I am out of the picture. lol) What better tribute than to have
the respect of your peers and competitors.
It's a part of my goal. At least it works for me.
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 8:25am
are you guys crazy... it's all out WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
competitors are the enemy!!
suck it up soldier!!!!!!!!!
------------- www.mr-steamer.com
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 1:56pm
I once cleaned 105 chairs on cruches. I worked for a couple of weeks with cruches and a cane. It was quite a few years ago and I had no one to who could do the cleaning, so I got a helper. It certainly couldn't happen today.
------------- Just My opinion
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 2:13pm
I agree more toward Mr.Steamer about the comp.
I had a referral from a good rest.custy but it was too far for me to drive for the money (round trip 150mi) so i called 10 ccer's in that area, Each one said they didn't want it. It was only $60 for 300sft. Less than 1hr work. Couldn't get anyone to do this for me. So i ended up losing the other rest acct. (they were family). Hungarians.
Whatsmore, my area is loaded with bulletin boards, everytime i drive by one i put up my pulltab flyer and sometimes the whole flyer is gone the next day. The COMP is taking them down.
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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 4:52pm
I have 14 companies here in Kentucky that use our method, we ALL work together and share work. Best of all worlds when you have peers you can trust.
------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years!
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 5:44pm
Well then u r lucky, the guys around here won't help or give ya zilch.
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*****Dog eat Dog here.*****
Saw a fellow cleaner at the pumps one day and i started to talk to him, he didn't have the time.
Maybe behind schedule. Strange around here.
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 8:12pm
Padman must live in "a little patch of heaven"... that happens no where...unless it's a franchise situation....
I throw a few companies some work ...if it's something I don't do...
but most times I don't like to recommend...actually I DONT RECOMMEND it caused me a lot of heart ache in the past...
I've also helped a few friends get into the business.... one of them is also sending out flyers with the same company I use and under cutting my cheap price.......with the truck I sold him... with the methods I taught him
to me that is WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
------------- www.mr-steamer.com
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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 9:22pm
You are so WRONG Steamer, I know personally hundreds of cleaners, and most places I go a GROUP of cleaner freinds from the same town meet me.
Maybe it is where you live, or maybe it is just YOU.
------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years!
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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 10:22pm
I left on good terms with the last CC co. I worked for
I help him out and he helps me out
His brother in law also runs a CC co. in town and we get along very well....he's been trying to get out of the cleaning end and focusing on water damage so he actually sends alot of cleaning my way
so I send the two of them all of my WD,,,they're both mentors really
I also try to stay friends with most of the other cleaners but there is only 1 other co. I truly trust to cover for me.
the one o/o tries to send me all of his crapola work but his customers usually think my prices are too high..............even though he tried telling me that I don't charge enough
turns out I need a day surgery and can go back to work the following day......I'm gonna try to tough out a couple jobs tomorrow
------------- A.K.A.
Andy
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 11:25pm
Padman wrote:
You are so WRONG Steamer, I know personally hundreds of cleaners, and most places I go a GROUP of cleaner Friends from the same town meet me.
Maybe it is where you live, or maybe it is just YOU.
| like I said"a patch of heaven" thats bull it's all about making money and market share....
so you country bumkins share customers... I guess thats what comes from marrying your cousin
------------- www.mr-steamer.com
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 11:35pm
Padman that goes to show you... padders are a dime a dozen....lol it doesn't matter what padder does the job you all wash your pads at the same coin laundry...
share customers....bahahahahahaha
Hey Lee... if you ever have any customers you want to share with me give me a call....
------------- www.mr-steamer.com
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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 11:38pm
Stir and stir, however, we are usually making money while you are here making your 5000 posts. Dime a dozen, nope closer to a buck three ninety eight.
------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years!
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 11:42pm
I haven't been to the coin laundry in a while... is that what it cost now adays?????..
I don't see how you're making money Padman when you can seem to pull yourself off Kenny's nipple
------------- www.mr-steamer.com
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/April/2005 at 11:48pm
padman...... what no post???? come on Mr.GIGGLEYWIGGLEY you must be full of Jello because bull(s)hit doesn't shake that way
------------- www.mr-steamer.com
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