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Topic: walk behind cleaning mach
Posted By: roy dudley
Subject: walk behind cleaning mach
Date Posted: 30/March/2005 at 8:22pm
  has anyone every used a walk behind carpet cleaning mach.  How does it compare to a good truck mount, and what is a good brand, and any other tips on this you might have. Thanks Roy



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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 16/April/2005 at 10:16pm
Well Roy still no answer for you 16 days after you posted. I can tell you this, there is no way you could compare a walk behind to a TM. I'll leave the rest to the boys that know the business.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/April/2005 at 10:43pm
It doesn't compare to a truck mount. I can't recommend one, cause I haven't used one for years. If you wanna do it economically, try encapsulation or bonnet cleaning.


Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 18/April/2005 at 9:52am

roy,

http://www.kleenkuip.com/used_equipment/used_equipment.htm - You should look on the KK website under used equipment . There you will find many uprite walk-behinds in both new & used.

On the big jobs most established janitorial firms use walk-behinds for many reasons:

  • They are simple to operate with a lower wage earner
  • Much, much less fatigue on the operator
  • Cleans much faster and covers more sq. ft. per hour
  • Uses cylindrical brush action for the mechanical action needed. Wands just cannot offer the same mechanical action unless the operator is the Hulk
  • My personal choice is the http://www.kleenkuip.com/portables/edic_machines.htm - EDIC Model as it allows cleaning both forward or backwards
  • http://www.kleenkuip.com/portables/edic_supernova.htm - EDIC Supernova
  • http://www.kleenkuip.com/portables/edic_polaris.htm - EDIC Polaris 500PS, 700PS, 701PS
  • http://www.kleenkuip.com/portables/edic_polaris1.htm - EDIC Polaris 801PS, 1201PS

To sum it all up a union worker simply would not be allowed to use a wand. Much too hard work.



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Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 18/April/2005 at 10:50am

Furthering my last post I apologize to Hydramaster for not including their http://www.cleanmaster.com/showroom/multifloor_cleaning_system/index.shtml - Multi-Surface Express Machine.

This is a system utilizing their patented RX-20 rotating head. It is very simple, very manueverable and very effective.



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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/April/2005 at 1:28pm
O.K. Ted, I'll shut up now.


Posted By: Glidemaster
Date Posted: 18/April/2005 at 3:03pm
Get a glide on that wand, and the hardwork disapears.

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Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 18/April/2005 at 4:25pm

Sorry Glidemaster. As you know the Multi-Surface Express works even better with Multi-Surface glides.

The world is working towards a glide for every cleaner and problem.

Glide with Pride!



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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 18/April/2005 at 6:34pm
They get carpet dry pretty fast. The reason?  A vac hose not even 12" long from the vac motor to the cleaning head. LESS HOSE FASTER DRYING !! I had one many moons ago. Also just one piece of equiptment to carry in. NO HEAT.


Posted By: Willy Parsons
Date Posted: 18/April/2005 at 6:49pm
 I have a Kent with a 20 or so inch path. I've cleaned over 10.000 sf on a shift with a helper easily.What Mr. Magic said is true- the brush agitates the fiber really well, the jets , while not putting out a lot of psi, lay down enough solution to clean well. And, again, the vac being so close gave me dry to the touch on a cold, rainy December day. I tried it on an apartment and had to repair the carpet. GREAT for glue down only.

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 18/April/2005 at 8:27pm
Willy the bush agitator should be adjustable for res.nylon's.


Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 08/June/2005 at 11:14pm
not sure if the original poster is still looking for a response, however, after using a Power Eagle walk behind in 2003, i wouldn't recommend it for any carpets with high traffic. I used it in Maine, USA, in the Augusta City Hall, and the results were horrible. Very high traffic areas, hoever, the gray carpets would only come out brown with more than 5 complete passes. the power eagle has a vacuum nozzle in the front, a scrubbing deck, and a wand, built right in. spray moving forward, them lift up and pull back. not sure on the specs, but the unit would extract almost all of the water put down, just not cleaning the carpet entirely.

In the units defense, the carpets should have been replaced, however, municipalities are cheap and wouldn't replace them. From the results i have seen from a portable demo, i would suggest a powerful portable. I don't have any experience with truckmounts, a little out of my price range.

Hope that helps.


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 12:40am

The psi's on them are usually 100... big deal.. Here what your saying JW....



Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 12:55am
Jared........by the sounds of those carpets.......an OP machine would have made them look really good.......at least it would be enough for them to actually consider paying you for your effort.

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Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 5:19pm
I'm not sure if a fire could have made them look good. Besides, at that time, i was friends with the building director and had to use his equipment, no opp for better equipment. And i think the walk behind was a 100 psi, no great, but i wouldn't recommend them based on my experience with them.


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 5:36pm
Why is it when cleaner just plain and simply has no idea wht the hell they are doing it is either machine's fault, the building super or what ever other excuse than comeup with.  Face it!!!! It is your god damm fault so live with it. You had no idea wht the hell you were doing?

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Posted By: Willy Parsons
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 10:04pm

Ya know, I clean several large accounts with my walk behind and have NO problems. The browning is :

A) Overwetting

B) Cleaning agent too alkaline.

c) Jute backed.

d) Operator inexperience

P.S.- A 175 RPM floor machine with a decent cotton or polyester pad(moistened) and a light prespray acid side would have helped tremendously.



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Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 10:47pm
Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

Why is it when cleaner just plain and simply has no idea wht the hell they are doing it is either machine's fault, the building super or what ever other excuse than comeup with.  Face it!!!! It is your god damm fault so live with it. You had no idea wht the hell you were doing?


Your opinion is noted....

Regardless, the walk behind machines are less effective based purely on their specs (psi, suction, etc.). ...


Posted By: Willy Parsons
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 10:53pm

Good attitude sonny. You'll go far.



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Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 11:00pm
I do pretty well...


Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 11:08pm
Originally posted by roy dudley roy dudley wrote:

  has anyone every used a walk behind carpet cleaning mach.  How does it compare to a good truck mount, and what is a good brand, and any other tips on this you might have. Thanks Roy


To get back to topic, Roy, I'v been researching quite a bit lately and depending on your money siutation, i've found several options. What types of jobs are you doing? commercial or residential, primarily? more than one floor buildings or homes? looking to do tile/grout also? If you'd like, i can send you the information i have found useful within the last two weeks of researching.

I was trying to stay under $5000 for a portable. Having a pickup truck, the truck mount wasn't and option, because it would have to come out regularly. I'll tell you, Ed Valentine, who posts on this board, has some impressive machines at very reasonable prices (not a plug) and he seems to be very helpful in offering information and references. You may want to private message with him directly.

"Just my opinion"


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 11:21pm
How does it compare to a good truck mount, "NO  COMPARISON"... When you have the funds go TM.... You will be glad you did...


Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 09/June/2005 at 11:31pm
I do not disagree, they are certainly more powerful. My only concern was distance, what's the range from the truck before you start losing suction or pressure from the pump? I've seen specs for 150' hoses that say no loss, is that true?


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 10/June/2005 at 12:18am
I have run 350 ft of hose. It still outcleaned a portable by a longshot


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 10/June/2005 at 7:26am
That must of been before you got  a cleanco???

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 10/June/2005 at 9:32am
Right



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