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HWE vs. VLM

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Topic: HWE vs. VLM
Posted By: Steaminpile
Subject: HWE vs. VLM
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 5:00pm

hot water extraction vs. Low moisture  cleaning (bonnet,padding etc.)

 

what is your vote for the best all around method??

 

I vote for HWE

 

 

 

 

 

although I'm thinking about a jiggler machine from Padman




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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 5:46pm

Commercial very dirty carpets, HWE, maintenance contract regular cleaning, first time HWE, then Padmans system all the way..........

                           Nightrider



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 6:02pm
I agree with nightrider.  But what Padman's system can accomplish will surprise anyone.Guitar

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 6:13pm
HWE is definately more versatile in that you can do many more different types of jobs water damage etc.Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 6:39pm

Padding sure is better if your doing a few thousand sq ft in the winter.. at least you don't have to run miles of hose.. or carry water to a portable



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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 7:57pm

I'm going to tell you all a story that everyone will think I'm crazy to do what I did, or that I'm full of crap, but this is a true story. There is a company here in Longueil on the South Shore of Montreal called Hasbro Industries, you all know it, it's the toy company.........I had a monthly contract to do the hallways and showroom carpets, and because of an idea that was bothering me for a while in the back of my head I decided to try it out........I took powered TSP and used a regular house vacuum disconected the vac hose and just agitated in the fibres, left it while I cleaned the offices and after 3 hours vacuumed it all up and it looked great, so there you go........

                  Nightrider 



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 8:19pm
Nightrider:  That kind of gives term dry powder a whole new meaning.Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 10:58pm
As long as the custy is happy and they pay

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 11:01pm
Ancient Chiness Receipe?Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 13/February/2005 at 11:42pm

The cleaning business is not what you know as a cleaner, it's what the customer doesn't know as a consumer

                               Nightrider



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 12:04am
what you don't know will hurt you...lol

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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 12:09am

Not if you don't feel the pain, and as a good salesman you should have the ability to numb the awareness of deceit and focus on all that is positive

                               Nightrider



Posted By: cleanex
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 5:12pm

And than you wonder why our industry is in such a mess.

Bullsh*t baffles brains, only in Quebec I hope



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 5:14pm
I guess different strokes for different folks

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 5:17pm
Can anyone tell me where this thread is going to end up?Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 5:27pm

Steampile, I would say the method you are BETTER at will give you the best results.

 

 



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Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years!


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 5:40pm
I would think mastering more than one method would be a great asset.Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 7:37pm

Got to do what you do best, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time

                                 Nightrider



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 8:28pm
Yes but Nightrider:  people in glass house should not throw stone.Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 8:29pm

how about Plexiglass, or bulletproff...........what then

                             Nightrider



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 14/February/2005 at 8:33pm
I guess you are SOL?Guitar

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Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 15/February/2005 at 5:57pm

nightrider,

Yes you are crazy but full of toxic compounds. When using T.S.P. powder the manufacturer suggests that you use gloves and a mask. Now if it affects the rough skin on your hands think of what it will do to your pink throat unless your throat is already black from smoking then go ahead and use it. It may help clean up the throat. It may also inflame it but at least the pinky red will be back.

I also loved your comments about It's not what the cleaner knows. Now with the internet all that is changing. Consumers bombard our telephones with cleaning questions. We tell them the right way to do it and they don't cut corners as we all know a pro maybe sometimes just might.



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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 15/February/2005 at 6:28pm

Ted thank for the advise regarding a mask........Too late though, where were you when I needed you.........Of course I wore a respirator, and rubber gloves half way up my arm, as well as a white suit with head hood, I read the package before I used it, as a matter of fact i just used some liquid TSP on a floor tile yesterday.......that crap works real fast

                         nightrider



Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/February/2005 at 10:08pm
different strokes for different folks!!!...Thumbs Up



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