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cleanex ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() Joined: 17/October/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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How important is it to you to belong to a industry association. Pros and Cons
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DON ELDRED
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cmaster ![]() IICRC Instigator ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29693 |
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I'll ask the age old question. "What's in it for me???"
I have paid my annual fees to a few in the past, but never felt that I received anything in return. Not one referral that I am aware of. If you're looking for information or help with a problem, you can do searches on the boards and find answers. If the association set up preferred pricing with suppliers, it could attract membership. This industry needs online training courses. Most of us who live outside of major centres can't afford the time or money to send our techs for training.
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duckcountry ![]() Master Carpet Cleaner ![]() ![]() Joined: 29/October/2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1082 |
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That is why I am not a IICRC (or whatever they call themselves today) member. Something for Nothing. Same with the BBB, the Chamber of Commerce and these referral clubs.
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Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity?
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cleanex ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() Joined: 17/October/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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Do you think it has any benefit to use in your sales pitches that you are a member of -------- Association, or do people really care
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duckcountry ![]() Master Carpet Cleaner ![]() ![]() Joined: 29/October/2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1082 |
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most can not afford to care. They buy products without ever referring to Consumers Digest which when the economy did not suck and this was an employees market and not an employers market consumers could afford the best and names mattered. Now, who cares about the name, does your product or service do the job?
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Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity?
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cmaster ![]() IICRC Instigator ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29693 |
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Nobody gives a rat's ass if you're an association member. Referrals from satisfied clients are your best source of business.
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John L ![]() Carpet Cleaning Guru ![]() Joined: 29/November/2004 Location: I'm Right Here! Status: Offline Points: 4013 |
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Don't the associations give a rats ass if your a member?
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duckcountry ![]() Master Carpet Cleaner ![]() ![]() Joined: 29/October/2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1082 |
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That is a fact! |
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duckcountry ![]() Master Carpet Cleaner ![]() ![]() Joined: 29/October/2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1082 |
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They give a rats ass about your membership dues. |
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LilNiteRidrhood ![]() Master Carpet Cleaner ![]() Joined: 17/March/2004 Location: Antarctica Status: Offline Points: 1257 |
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The main reason for belonging to an association in Toronto is that many RFQs require that you belong to the local association.
I am hoping that the new blood at the FIO are able to get it running again. |
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Soil Lint Green ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() ![]() Joined: 30/December/2007 Location: Oregon Status: Offline Points: 551 |
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FIO - is that Floorcovering Institute of Ontario or Federation of Ombudsman?
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It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk.
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Temple ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17/June/2012 Location: Tampa Florida Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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I Joined the Bay Area Apartment Association 2 Years ago and it has paid off. Had alot of apartment complexes call me that I have gotten carpet cleaning work from. Its apartment work, but it has pushed me through some lean times.
Im sure every major market has an Apartment association. |
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carpetologist ![]() The Great Hardini ![]() ![]() Hocus Pocus Joined: 20/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1712 |
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If you don't stand for something then you will fall for anything. Especially when we start out we need hand-holding and support. Speaking with association members could help you dig yourself out of a hole that your inexperience got you into.
This association problem solving just may be worth thousands of dollars on avoiding claims and your reputation. The FIO in Ontario had an employee working for us that continuously never stopped asking what she could do to help our business progress. Most association members were continuously complaining about no one ever working for them and never the miracles and profit they felt they should receive. Unfortunately no associations promote on behalf of their members as the fees would be excessive. The only way a small association can be effective (since it has limited funds and employees) is having member volunteers from time to time help things move forward and that is where it all breaks down. You will always find a few good samaritans who will work vigorously for the good of the association and the industry. But, every hour spent on association business is an hour less spent on your own business. I commend the people that contribute as it is a tireless and thankless job. I must say in the world of not speaking and eye-balling people we are lost in a world of text messages etc, etc, etc. It would be nice again to sit down as we once did in the past and break bread and have conversations with other industry members. |
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Superglide Ken ![]() Grand Potentate ![]() SGK Joined: 17/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4868 |
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I agree Ted.
As much as the world of email has expanded the size of the audience one is able to reach these days, it has come at a cost. I used to be a member of the association here in the 1980's and 1990's. It no longer exists here. Nobody really gets to know the members in there community anymore. Sad. |
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