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    Posted: 11/March/2004 at 5:35pm

I was wondering which porty has the largest capacity for vacs and pumps?

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if you mean by the largest capacity for vacs the most CFM & Lift? thats a tough call. i would say for lift check out the TMI website http://www.timbucktoomfg.com/site_products/extractors.htm# ....they have some old "dinosaur", heavy "box" type porty's with an advertised 340 inches of water lift (like the Legacy).....thats tremendous!!! the reality is, those units pull 37 amps....you will be popping breakers all week long!....best to have a big generater on your van to power that beast.

most CFM (that i know of) would be the Recoil3 HP from Cross American http://www.cross-american.com/recoil.htm 

as far as high PSI goes, some porty's like the Eclipse http://www.cleancraft.com/eclipse.html can put out 1500 PSI. it all depends on your needs.

 

the best porty's are BALANCED. the 2 i would recommend over all the others (and after over a year of research) are  :

1) the Recoil3 HP from Cross American Corp. http://www.cross-american.com/recoil.htm (i own 1 and like it alot....powerful unit!)

2) the Eclipse from CleanCraft http://www.cleancraft.com/eclipse.html (never tried it, but heard great things about it from a couple guys i trust...would LOVE to give it a shot!)

 

one powerful porty that interests me, but i havent heard anything on, is 1 that is made by Bob Savage http://www.savage-1.com/ but start saving your $$$.

each of these units have some big differences....each has it's advantage over the other.

any questions, feel free to email me

thanx --- Derek



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Thanks, Derek.

 

HI Ken.......

 

 

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340"WL eh? That is almost 25"HG. Only problem besides the poping breakers, it that most vac hose starts to crush at about 20" HG. Good for the hose sellers I guess.

 

 

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Just like your Raptor Ken

or are you looking at the new namco
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The 3 Raptors are still being used everyday in Calgary, which is more than I can say for any portable that claims 340"WL(25"HG). The hoses would have imploded long ago.

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Chuck;

Here is what we know in regards to amp draw.

The amperage required to run ---four--- 2 Stage vac motors is approx. 34.5 amps w/o running a pump.

The amperage running most any 3-stage or two stage vacuum motor set-up along with a 500 psi pump would far exceed 2-15 amp circuits.

Bottom line is : "You can't cheat Mother Watts!" no matter who you are. I know this because we market all over the world and this has always been the rule of thumb, period.

The primary goal of a (good) manufacturer is not to Max out amp draw requirements because doing so will only cause frustrations for the Operator blowing circuits.

 

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According to the science books, the bubblebee can not fly either Ed. Fortunatly, it does not read the books! I do not read the books that say this can not be done either(4 vac motors and a pump) on 2 circuits; I just do it and have been doing it for many years on my own equipment. Soon, the other cleaners will be able to have it too.
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Ken;

In regards to my comments & long experience on Watts/Amp draw:

Perhaps you should go back to reading "books" too because somethings just don't change. 2 + 2 = 4 in life and in any Math book I have ever consulted. Likewise, 120v (and/or 240v) is 120v and has its limitations as well. Just common-sense.

Wether you consider yourself an Einstein, or an inventor, I suggest that you don't push the truth too far since this very important vertue may expose something more than just your behind.

Lets develop new and better products for our Industry without over-promising the Professional unneccesarily . And, many who may honestly, but unsuspectingly, rely on what we say on these boards.

That just makes common-sense to me. How about you sir?

 

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The device that makes it all possible is one that I did invent Ed, and will be licencing . I would not expect you to understand how it works. The fact that it does work and that it will allow 4 motors and a 500 PSI pump to work on only 2 cords, and that these machines are going to be sold very soon is the important point I wanted to make. Cleaners will be able to buy them in months from now, not years.
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Will this Aeroteck portable have heat too.  I'm looking for a hi-performance portable for smaller jobs in the winter on slow days so I don't have to re-winterize my TM.  Tell me more about this machine.

 

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I would check with ED and the Recoil 3
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Dennis: You will need an external heater with it  for upholstery cleaning. Every available amp is needed to drive the vac motors and pump. At the 400 PSI most will operate with, a heater that runs at 2000 watts or less will not give much of a heat boast anyways.
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Dennis,

Take a look at the specs here. We consider this a poor mans truckmount. Carpet cleaning portables would never need this kind of PSI. But it has been built as a combination carpet & hard surface cleaner. This unit in combination with the Turbo Hybrid will be a definite money maker.

Keeping in mind that less carpet is being layed today. It's a no-brainer to think taht hard surface flooring is possibly both of our futures.

Clean Smarter, Not Harder.

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