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Portable that lives up to a truck mount??

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/July/2010 at 12:53am

Remember if you do any flood extraction and you dont have a pump clutch you have to hook up water and it has to flow.. So get yourself a weep spay wand (carwash type).

They constantly move water (weep) without pressing on the trigger, so your unit dont overheat and shutdown. Your unit should have a overheat shutdown feature to prevent engine damage. Most TM's do.

Good luck on your new TM.
 
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Great advice! I'm going to go with the new Panther. The other one is too much bullsh*t.

I checked out Amtex too. The machines look good but I've heard they are not well put together. There is a youtube video called "Prowler POS" hahaha. Plus, Chemtex has the dual heat exchangers and the water box to circulate the water ;). No bypass on the wand, the way it SHOULD be!

You know, I've never shopped around so much for machines. Last time, I didn't expect to get the Panther 25. I was upgrading from a Ninja so anything was better at the time so I bought the Navigator. This time, I've been SHOPPING! And there is one thing that I've noticed. All of these machines are virtually identical. Same blower, same engines, same everything. Some are just WAY overpriced (Hydramaster, Prochem, etc). At least the cleaning models. Sure, you can get something like the Prochem Everest which has a 4 cylinder Honda engine.. but that's just flat out ridiculous if you're not running 500 ft of hose!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30/June/2010 at 8:21pm

You might want to ck out the unit first.. Start it up.. Test it out..

If it has frozen and he dont tell you ....  you are out 7500! Unhappy
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OK. I went with a brand new Panther 18. Ugh. This ordeal costing me over ten grand with the reel, extra 100 ft. of hose, stetcher, toolbox, chemical shelf, chemicals, tile tool, etc. etc.

And to think, I thought I could get away with spending $3000-$4000! I guess in the end it will be worth it. I'll make it back in a couple of months by not splitting everything with contractors (contractors who don't turn in add on sales on top of that!!!) Cool I'm going to pick it up in the next couple of days :)

Thanks for every ones words!

BTW. I found a great deal in another state from an individual. The only thing stopping me is the fact that he's 20 hours away. Other than that, he seems legit. Knowledgeable, good pictures, clean machine, etc. etc. Any ideas on how I can safely do the transaction?? He's willing to take paypal but it took me 3 months to get a $19.99 item refunded for non-receipt last time! I can only image $7500!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/June/2010 at 8:20pm
Thanks Ed. I didn't know that..LOL! Anyways if you decide
different the nearest to TM Porty setup would be the Recoil XPS/booster/lil-giant.Banana Dance
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ed Valentine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/June/2010 at 1:42pm
Best of Luck to you, Chris!
 
You will be a real success because you are a terrific and honest individual, as John L is.
 
Also great speaking with you the other day too.
 
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You're right John. I'm going to pick up a Stallion or a Panther 15. Screw it, I'm ponying up the money. In the end, it will be far more worth it, easier to work in the home and a smaller engine won't burn up as much gas as the 25 HP did, so yea. That seems to be the most logical solution. I was just thinking about hauling that 200+ pound M12 up and down stairs. Trying to get the water hot, etc. etc. etc. Yea, why should I try to "emulate" a TM when I can simply just use a TM. Even if it's a lower end model. I never used 450 ft. of hose, like the 25 HP was capable of. I never used the double wand. I never used any of those extra features.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/June/2010 at 6:18pm
Soil... I dont just use my TM.. Also use my rotary
quite a bit. Have a bucket full of pads for my old
lady to clean.. Banana Dance
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Soil Lint Green Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/June/2010 at 10:33pm
How about a truckmount using cummins diesel power?   j/k
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Originally posted by Atlantis Atlantis wrote:

  I've also been contemplating the amount of gas I use to use. I'd say about 2 gallons an hour x 8 hours a day = 16 gallons/day x $3/gallon = $48/day x 15 days a month (leaving out 5 working days just to leave room for slow days and no days) = $720/month in savings!
Cons to gas truck mounts (cost per month on gas). LOL! LOL
Hmmmmm. Those recoils look great though!  Carpet Cleaner 
So your TM burns $48/day... in 8hrs.. Ok with the M12 it would be
12hrs to do the same amount of work with slower dry times.ShockedLOLBig smile
 
4hrs extra cleaning per day X what your worth per hour? Are you really saving? No.Shocked
15x4=60hrs extra time cleaning a month. WOW! 60hrs x Your worth $50 = $3000. Cool
 
Gas isn't an issue as much as time.... Well, not to me anyways. Cool Approve Big smile 
By the way, Customer's pay for my gas all the time..! Approve Approve Approve
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IMHO, I do not think you are comparing apples-to-apples.
 
 
 
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Alright! I think I've made my decision. The Mytee M12. I took some measurements in a few homes and front door to the further point in a nice size 2500 sq. ft home was 50-75 ft. I also just got back from a moderate size flood job that I did with my Ninja and even though the thing is beat up, it still did the job! I've also been contemplating the amount of gas I use to use. I'd say about 2 gallons an hour x 8 hours a day = 16 gallons/day x $3/gallon = $48/day x 15 days a month (leaving out 5 working days just to leave room for slow days and no days) = $720/month in savings!

Those re-coils look great! If they only had an auto fill/pump-out, I'd go with those. They claim to be able to run 150-200 ft of hose where the M12 says it runs 75 ft. The propane heater + the machine = about the same as a Panther 15 unit, so it doesn't make much sense.

re-coil - $2700
heater - $1300
Pump booster for tile - $1,000
auto-fill/dump - $750
wand - $200
hoses - $400
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$6350+ tax?? + shipping
Stallion - $5800 - 15 horse power - (bypass on wand)- includes 100ft. hose/ dual jet SS wand.
Panther 15 (15 horse power - but no bypass needed)- $7000 - includes 100ft. hose/dual jet SS wand.

Cons to gas truck mounts (cost per month on gas).


Hmmmmm. Yea, I think I'm going to go with the Mytee for now. It seems more cost efficient all the way around. Worst case, I could buy an air hog for $400 and mytee heater for $500 to use on commercial jobs if needed. Or I can simply move the Mytee to where I need it and use the old Ozarka bottle to fill it. Those extra large commercial jobs are not too often. Not often enough to justify thousands of dollars of extra cost.

Those recoils look great though!



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Wow, what a concept! Portables that are actually strong enough to be used as TMs. I will have to look into that.Smile
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