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just in case you experts don't realize it this is a PUBLIC FORUM! kids and little old ladies can read it i suggest you guys tone it down a notch or two.
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I see lots of heart attacks happening all over the place after the little old ladies that like reading carpet cleaner boards read this thread!
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Originally posted by rick007 rick007 wrote:

just in case you experts don't realize it this is a PUBLIC FORUM! kids and little old ladies can read it i suggest you guys tone it down a notch or two.
 
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Originally posted by Ken_Is_OK Ken_Is_OK wrote:

You little Cheerleader b-i-t-c-h- Cheerleader you may know how to read but you sure don't have very good reading comprehension!!!
 


Ahhhhh, I think we hurt the little things feelings.  Did you get the shoes to go with that purse?  How are you and your domestic partner doing these days?  Thinking of adopting? 

At least mexicans who by the way speak SPANISH and not MEXICAN are not afraid to work for a living unlike you delicate types who think it is your time of the month again.  They may be replacing you, but since they are trained to do it right (including not making excuses for why they would not vacuum) and the IICRC recognizes the importance of aliens in our industry by conducting SPANISH language versions of our courses and most importantly don't throw a tissy fit everytime someone dares to disagree with them.  Probably a cultural thing.  But you would not know anything about that since culture is a foreign word to you, right girly man?
Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity?
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ok somebody explain to this retard that when I called him a bitch first that was me calling him a "girly-man". He then can not come back with calling me a f*g or girlyman. He needs to come up with his very own original way of dissing me.
 
That being said--nobodygivesaf**k what he thinks.
we know you are suppose to vacuum so that is why we tell the customer to do it. why cant you understand that?
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Forgive me, I didn't know I was in the presence of his royal hinda$$ who establishes all rules of who can diss and how they can diss.  Bring it on girl man, now that you have been shown to be dumber than the dirt Mr. Steamer leaves in carpets by not being responsible enough to FOLLOW the IICRC guidelines and instead re-defining what is good or bad, keep talking and acting like you know more than the experts who know about you and know you drank the few brain cells you were born with into oblivion.  Care to list the nobodys you are referring to or is this more like the list of Harris' satisfied customers?
Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity?
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Originally posted by cmaster cmaster wrote:

That's a great topic to debate. Shall we???Big%20smile
 
In hindsight........that may have been one of the stupidest posts I ever put upShocked

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Paul hindsight is 20/20 hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Anyone here that can tell me that their customers will effectively vacuum carpets for them to be able to come in and clean is living in la-la land.

I used to give the option and used to give concise details on how I expected them to be vacuumed, but 95% of the time walked into houses that
  1. weren't detailed around the edges/skirtings of the rooms
  2. in the bedrooms you could still pick blanket dust off the carpets there was so much present
  3. half the time behind doors was forgotten about
  4. they'd expect you to shift furniture but wouldn't shift it themselves and vac under it cos it was "too heavy" for them
  5. here in Perth West Aust we have a lot of sandy type soils, which can accumulate in significant quantities in carpet and definitely will not lift out no matter how "super" your sucker is- you need the brush bar of an upright style vac cleaner to make a significant dent in the carpet's soil load, not just water, detergent and and extractor!
  6. woe betide if the customer has pets inside their house- tell me you go in and don't end up with pet hair all over your equipment, particularly your hoses and blocking your filters so much by the end of the job that you end up with no airflow thru your 3,456CFM super-duper-mega-sucker? I used to, but pre-vaccing with a Dyson means I haven't seen that happen since I stopped giving people the option.
So you still wanna argue that you shouldn't, if you wanna do the job properly that you don't hafta pre-vac?LOL You must be Egyptian and living in da Nile LOLLOL

If you wanna set yourself to the bottom end of the market, go for it, it is your business decision like I said after all and I won't argue that, the customer is only gonna get what they pay for, but to say it is "not necessary" and using that as your excuse is plain ridiculous!Confused
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This is foolishness.... I have cleaned carpet long enough and more than enough to know if a pre-vac works or not.
 
LIKE I SAID MINOR IF ANY!!!!
 
Every little bit helps...but am I going to spend an hour or two to make sure it vac'd properly when I have a truck mount running a 56 blower and cleaning at 500+ psi NO!
 
once you own a machine your a professional in this business.
 
my panties are not in a wad....I just hate the holier than thou bullsh*t some of you motherf**kers post.
 
Thanks Ken-is-ok...
 
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listen man do it if it makes you feel better...
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own a machine and you're a professional??

yep, that's what I thought you'd think

definitely in La-La-Land

quick, where can I buy a scalpel, I wanna be a brain surgeon nowLOL!
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Originally posted by FreshAire FreshAire wrote:

own a machine and you're a professional??yep, that's what I thought you'd thinkdefinitely in La-La-Landquick, where can I buy a scalpel, I wanna be a brain surgeon nowLOL!



Steamer has been in La La land for a long time now.......

It is hard to find time to vacuum houses when you are used to doing 6 drivebys a day like he does. Between pushing the wand and arguing posts on this board, I am surprised he has time enough to eat and maintain his 250 lb figure!
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Originally posted by FreshAire FreshAire wrote:

own a machine and you're a professional??

yep, that's what I thought you'd think

definitely in La-La-Land

quick, where can I buy a scalpel, I wanna be a brain surgeon nowLOL!
Yup thats what I said....  Thats what the Carpet cleaning industry is full of....  A bunch of know nothing professionals.  Freshaire your one of them!
 
Take a dumb IICRC course...and think you know it all hands down... get certified without ever touching a piece of equipment.
 
Freshaire I bet you don't even own a vac...or it old and beat up and doesn't remove sh*t from the customers carpet.
 
your statement "quick, where can I buy a scalpel, I wanna be a brain surgeon nowLOL!"  this stands true in the carpet cleaning industry... there are no regulations to make you a professional.. you call yourself a pro
 
Freshaire why don't you just open your mouth wider so you can get your other foot in it too...
 
I'm not picking on you... just stating the facts ... carpet does not have to be prevac'd to get produce excellent results... if you had any experience you would know that...
 
 
 
 
 
 
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