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$1,200 for the tool plus pads is not a bad deal.
as far as the stone class you can view the information here
I hope I do not get ban for that link.
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I've used the DS on a couple of floors and it worked out great for that. Honed a slab for a buddy with it also and it worked for that as well. I bought mine as a guy was selling it and he only used it once plus got all the pads with it. $1,200.
 I do have to pick up other grinders tho. I have access to tons of 3" pads.
I'll have to check your site and see when you are offering top polishing classes. Something near the end of summer.
Thanks again Jos.
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This toy is a joke.
It will hurt you when it comes time to work close to the back splash and around the faucets, the amount of over spay will cause you to tape up most of the work area,  3 pads per step, and when it comes time for polishing you will use more compound than you need.

For the cost of this one tool, you could have taken a class plus get all the tools that you need to do this type of job.

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Thankyou Jos. That's right around the ballpark I was thinking as well. There are actually 2 seams in this mess. Both are right where the sink is.Argue Thus one seam has a bad lippage almost the hieght of a quarter. If it was on the floor I'd call it trippageGeek Now I know the person who installed it and I can't believe he did it this way.  (I've never helped him install marble tho, only granite)
 Do you think I could get away with using a DS-301 on this counter? I just love this thing and figure I could just feather in the edges as I go up in grits.
 Thanks for all your help Jo as I really appreciate it coming from you.
 Have a good one. Mark

P.S. I'm still hoping to be able to make it down there to take one of your courses.
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Grinding:
Is the second stage in securing a flawless surface. This stage will remove all scratches from any delipped surface. 28x13= $364

Honing:
 Is the third and sometimes the last stage. At the honed stage, the surface is 65% scratch free. The surface will have a slight reflection and appear clean and aged. 28x10=$280

Polishing:
 Is the final stage which leaves the surface with reflective characteristics. 28x8 = $224

Impregnators:
 Commonly known as sealers. This is the first stage in preserving your investment (should occur every six to eight months). 28x5 = $140

Decorative seam:
a clever way to disguise a crack, chip, hole or seam. 1x470 = $470

Total: $1478
Time: One man day.
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BTW JOH I just checked your profile and you are "THE MAN" when it comes to this stuff. I've see much of your work on the net over the past year or so. I'm hoping to get down there for one of those courses as well.
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Nice work Joh. Beautiful work Joh actually!!! The one I looked is 2ft X 14ft. She only wants the one done.
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Here is a green marble that I did a few years back.
This job took me five hours to do.

I did the whole kitchen and charge a little over four thousand.





Please notice the window framing and the fact that we left no waves on the surface. This is why we get pay what we ask.  Polishing a full slab is not the same as polishing a seam or profile. It does take a little skill.


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That top is a mess and not for the reasons you may think.
To polish the surface you can start with the 100 grit and finish up at the 800 grit followed up with a little 5x and water.

The mess that I see is with the edges. I can see oil and it looks like the edges were never polish. to correct this, mix flour and a degreaser and use as a poultice before you polish the profile.

The seam is not as bad as you may think. You have two ways of doing this. the first is to cut away the seam and anything that may stop you from pushing the slab closer before re-seaming the top. or you can just remove the seam and layer your colors as you are playing connect the dots. Once you have you colors, simply polish with your 500, 800, and 1000 grit.

I hope you get paid what this job is worth.
If you give me the sizes, I can show you how I broke it down, not saying that it will work for you, but it can give you an idea what other people do.
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woohoo! Look at me. LOL Thanks Joh. Sorry they're so big.
You can see $hitty even one of the seams are.
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it is easy to post an image on this forum, here is the code that you will need.
 or you can just click on this button in the tool bar and place the image link in the pop up window.


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Just got back from looking at the counter. Lots of etching, a few tiny holes, even areas where it looks like it was used as a cutting board.Uh,%20uh,%20uh Said she's been using vinegar and water to clean it.Wacko
 Now if I could only figure out how to post pics, I'd put them up.
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I love when they do stuff like that, after all that is how we make our money.
If you can take pictures of the stone I may be able to help you out. Re-polishing green is not as hard as people make it seem.

an average top of 60 sft with normal wear and etch marks can be finish in less than 3 hours.
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