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    Posted: 18/March/2007 at 10:43pm
If I were to start this business with little to no experience in carpet cleaning what would be the best way to start? I'm thinking about doing some training and going the OP route because it just seems a lot easier for the operator and a lot cheaper than a TM or anything like that.

I was also wondering if the complete business package from ccsop is actually the complete package? Could I get away with using that for a one man operation doing carpet and simple tile/grout work in both res. and commercial settings?

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Hey bgrey. Some on here will disagreewith my answer. It would have to be yes. You can make some very good cash.And most important HAPPY CUSTOMERS. With a o.p machine.Give John a call and he will get you going in the wright direction. Nothing against High Dollar Truckmounts. They can do a great job. But so can you with a o.p
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Bgrey,I Have the complete package from CCS. It can clean carpets...But, it aint no TM.

If youre planning to get a whole OP set-up. Then, I also recommend getting yourself a portable extractor. Op aint gonna cut it on every job.

John's BIz package is 7K. If you dont have a truck to carry all that equipments...Then you would also need to invest in a truck. Lastly, to be fully versatile...YOu would also need to purchase a portable extractor (highly recommended).

Add all that up and it aint cheap. For about the same price (or less)...You can get yourself a decent used TM with everything you would need to get started.


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Ninja, buy a TM and then ADD all the TOOLS to make it do everything, add an RX, add a Turbo, add this and that and a LONG list of chemicals to clean with.

Op, doens't cut it on every job? Humm, I turn down NO WORK have a great rep here and ONLY use OP. It is all about learning how to use it period.

Bgray, give the office a call at 859-744-5332 but wait until tomorrow when Patty is back in the office, she will answer any and all your questions.
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Buy a used rotary for around $200 save yourself $1000's for that TM... Yes, TM.. You will feel more Professional, more Confident, You will have a big smile on your face.. I have TM Big smile, porty LOL and rotary.LOL

I've pulled in my rotary to aggitate and you want to know how many ppl said "Your not going to clean my carpet with that, are you"?...
 
Now what would you have done if that's all you had??????????
 
 
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    I agree with Ninja-wand...if you go the OP route you'll want to get a portable HWE extractor. You will have situations where a hot water extraction will be required, also for upholstery it is great.

Depending on your budget, you could get started with a good portable and a 17" OP and you're in business...you'll be able to a very decent job in most situations. If you do end up getting a TM you'll need the portable anyways for a back up.

Remember, regardless of how much you spend on equipment up front...you will need operating capital and $$$ for marketing...as well as all the other overhead that comes with running a business. Most important of all...write your plan and budget down on paper...a good business plan is the best investment of time you will make.
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I've seen the OP fail....I've seen hwe fail...I've seen the cimex fail...

Padman everyone knows your sucesses, show us some failures....it makes you more real.

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I'll be sure to post one when I have one Steamer, but don't have any to show yet! But I am a newbie, only done this 33 years, so I am sure there are a few I haven't seen yet, and when I get it, I will post pics of it... DEAL?
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Padman ..You know as well as I do that there are none...you are a professional you'll always make it work,

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"Ninja, buy a TM and then ADD all the TOOLS to make it do everything, add an RX, add a Turbo, add this and that and a LONG list of chemicals to clean with."-JOhn G.


Oh, pUhleEez JOhn!! WHat you just said above is just weak. First off all...WHo said he needed a RX?? Anywho, I bet that I can get this dude EVERYTHING (includes Chems galore)he needs for under 10k.

I know how you like to compare prices between OP and a TM and try to make OP look like a GREAT deal. BUt, as you can see...Its not that much of a great deal.

Ive talked to quite a few of Op cleaners and they all agree that OP has some short comings and one would need (at least a portable)to have HWE capability.BUt, JOhn is the only one that can clean EVERYTHING with only OP and has no problems EVER. I wish I can be a OP god like JOhn one day.

Steemer is right...Maybe you should also admit that OP has somes flaws (like all systems).That would make it more realistic.


Wait...But, If you did....You wouldnt be able to sell as many machines. Ahhhh, I understand now.







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Oh, pUhleEez JOhn!! WHat you just said above is just weak. First off all...WHo said he needed a RX?? Anywho, I bet that I can get this dude EVERYTHING (includes Chems galore)he needs for under 10k.

You know, without the other TOOLS, that cost as MUCH as OP, you will in NO WAY get as good of results, if you think a plain wand by itself is better cleaning, then you might not have been doing this too long.

You ASSumptions of "selling more machines" is off base, I practice what I preach, I take pictures to show, (good and bad alike) of what I do, I can stand the muster on its own no matter what you THINK.

That god comment was childish as well, I do this for a living, I master what I do, I have too to be successful, that only makes me a good padder, nothing else.

If YOU mastered it, you would do the same, but sometimes HAVING to rely on this and that method, you NEVER master what you do. Some people are jacks of all methods, masters of NONE.

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1: WHo said anything about only cleaning with just a wand?? If he needs aggitation...a rotary will be more than enough. Therfore, No need for a RX.

2: YOu take pictures of good and bad?? LMAO!! SHow me ONE pic. that you posted that was a "bad" Op job.

3: God comment??...HOw was that childish??...You should take it as a compliment. Btw, I can say god damn this and god damn that on here all day long and you still cant ban me (makes your blood boil dont it??!!).

4: ANd I guess youre the only one that truely "mastered" OP john?? SO, I guess all the padders that Ive talked to (from paddyland that you respect)that also depends on HWE havent mastered it yet??...Do we need to practice it for 30yrs. to be great like you??



Bottomline, Bgray...I advise you to talk to other cleaners that do both OP and HWE and get their opinions. DOnt just hear one side from salesmen.











    
    
    
    

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bgray22,

I have one of my OP Activators coming in on a trade this week. Customer claims he hardly used it. It will go up on this site under used equipment with price when it comes in.
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