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    It's interesting that when you post a question on the portable board the TM boys have absolutely nothing constructive to add...except "get a TM". These are the same guys who get IICRC certified, however fail to recognize that there are 5 approved IICRC carpet cleaning methods...most of them don't even follow the most important step in carpet cleaning which is PRE-VACUUM.

The reason I follow a 5 step procedure is that it works. Since I started my current commercial floor maintenace business I consistently take business away from the cleaners who use 1 or 2 steps in the cleaning process...and yes, even the encap cleaners...WHY??...because I outperform them (with my 150psi Ninja and a floor buffer).

I have found a formula that works well for me...I have never made better money...and I charge more than most of my competition...but then...I'm a really good salesman! People love a 5 step process!
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never in a million years could you take a customer away from me and my Cimex. you better stay in Calgary there cowboy :)

ps. I have never owned a TM
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Don't worry...I plan to stay in Calgary...it's the only place people pay you what you're worth...with a smile on their face.

By the way...I don't try to take business away from anyone...I get the referals, do a presentation and leave it up to the customer...they make the decision.

I'm glad you like your cimex...but I have to say that it's not hard for me to convince my customers that my process is superior.   
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lucky for you your customers aint too smart!
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Originally posted by CleanEvo CleanEvo wrote:

Thanks Carpetoligist...I'll give you a call.

Interesting to hear from the TM boys. I cleaned carpets for 15 years with a TM. A truck mount and van won't do me much good 28 floors up in a Calgary tower. 

    
why the hell not...you run the house up the stairwell thats only 280 feet worth of hose...aint no thing....
 
most guy can't afford a truckmount...let alone the hose...LOL
 
they call them portable guysLOL
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[QUOTE=CleanEvo]   Don't worry...I plan to stay in Calgary...it's the only place people pay you what you're worth...with a smile on their face.

Isn't that where SGG get his buck a square?
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I thought SGG was the only cleaner in Calgary?

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One minute or less dry times!     
Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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That's cuz you don't get it wet if you don't clean it

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Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

Originally posted by CleanEvo CleanEvo wrote:

Thanks Carpetoligist...I'll give you a call. Interesting to hear from the TM boys. I cleaned carpets for 15 years with a TM. A truck mount and van won't do me much good 28 floors up in a Calgary tower.     
why the hell not...you run the house up the stairwell thats only 280 feet worth of hose...aint no thing....
 

most guy can't afford a truckmount...let alone the hose...[IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

 

they call them portable guys[IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

I have thought long and hard about getting a TM...I worked for 15 years running a truck mount for others and occasionally used a portable when I couldn't reach something or the TM was down. At times the TM was down often and I was always amazed that my cleaning results were as good with the portable as the TM...yes a little extra effort, but good results.

Now that I am doing mainly commercial (and want to pursue more commercial) I really don't know if a TM is worth the investment...I know if I buy one it will not be used fully and then I don't want a huge lease payment hanging over my head.

I will concede to one thing...If I was doing 75% or more residential...I would definately get a TM...but for multi floor commercial I prefer a portable...I would like to try a more powerful portable some time.
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I hear ya...TM is useless on commercial...I will agree with you that sometimes a 100 psi porty does a way better job....
 
but I can get almost anywhere with a TM...ALMOST...lol
 
I got a cimex for commercial and I love it
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I'm setting up shop in alberta with my Votex and Cimex and sending a job application to CleanEvo
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I have thought long and hard about getting a TM...I worked for 15 years running a truck mount for others and occasionally used a portable when I couldn't reach something or the TM was down. At times the TM was down often and I was always amazed that my cleaning results were as good with the portable as the TM...yes a little extra effort, but good results.
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Fist of all a portable won't out clean a TM on carpet,  if it would there would be no market for TM's.  Thats like saying my Dust Buster will out clean my vacuum. 

No one cares about the steps for commercial, mainly price.  For residential thats a different story, some have 20 steps get real.  One being putting plastic under the furniture legs. 

Most commercial accounts have janitorial services that vacuum every night, so no thats no  biggie to pre-vac when it was just done, unless they are paying you well.  I'm guessing your getting over .30 ¢ a sf. for all your steps.   
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With the steps I mentioned above I can get the carpet as clean as a truck mount, just takes longer is all. I've been cleaning carpets for a long time and I know this to be true from experience...the benefit of a TM is speed and convenience....that's all.

A pre-vacuum is always 100% required to effect the best cleaning possible. Some janitorial companies do a poor job of vacuuming (not all). I have found that I remove a lot of dry grit with a pre-vacuum in ALL situations. That's why a pre-vacuum is a required step in carpet cleaning...as a professional you can't count on the customer or someone else doing a proper job.

I do offer a premium service and most of my customers are corporations who are interested in quality and providing a healthy work environment for their employees...it's not hard to convince them of the benefits. I wish I could get .30 cents a square foot, if I could I'd be making about $200 an hour...I like to make $100 per hour so if you do the math you can figure out what I charge.

My business is built on quality and service, not steps or gimmicks...so far it's working for me.


    

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