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    Posted: 05/October/2006 at 11:18am

              Does anyone in the toronto GTA area have any problems running portable extractors with dual 3 stage vacs?

 

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Peculiar;
 
Unfortunately, your question is too general in nature.
 
I think this would depend upon many other factors. For example, there are many, many 3 stage vacuum motors that draw a wide aray of amps.....
 
The pumps must be part of this equation as well, along with other factors such as design (this will determine resistance which relates to total amp draw; low or high)& hook ups.
 
Some pumps with the same pressure may draw .55 amps, while the other one draws 8 amps.
 
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Anyways, just something to consider.
 
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I dont live in Canada but my Recoil-2 never blew any circuits with the dual 3-stage vacs. I added another 3-stage and a heater and that's when i picked up a generator....
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we have some unique situations in Toronto
for example I have a Rabbit-3 floor machine which was advertised as a bonnet and shampoo machine for carpet....guess what? POP POP POP goes the breakers in Toronto!
 
And do you think I could return the machine? nope!
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Dennis;
 
Blowing circuits from extraction machines also happen quite often, here in the States to. "However".........re-read my comments above. And, never discount the word: "design", because just like the word; "service", it doesn't get much attention.....until you need it.
 
I'll bet your rabbit floor machines surge amps always kicked in under resistance.
 
However, here is the bottom line to the Gentlemans orgional question:
 
Are there dual 3 stage machines operating in Toronto successfully over the past decade? ABSOLUTELY. And, I'm sure that our good friend, Ted Harding has sold many!
 
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How many brand new in the box dual 3-stage Ninja's does Ted have in stock today? He's the number one Ninja guy in Ontario.
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Originally posted by peculiar peculiar wrote:

Does anyone in the toronto GTA area have any problems running portable extractors with dual 3 stage vacs?
 
If you purchase a U.S. made machine especially a 2 cord, 2 - 3stage vac system it will create a nightmare for you by continuously blowing fuses.
 
Many U.S. machines are made to run on 20 amps. We in Canada operate mostly on 15 amps. This machine will also be illegal in Canada since it will not have CSA Approval. If you also operate your equipment with long and improper guage extention cords it will also contribute to blowing fuses and will burn your vac motors out prematurely.
 
 
As Ed Valentine indicated there are 3 stage motors and also high-performance 3 stage motors and it's usually the high-performance amp vac motors that cause the fuses to pop.
 
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LOL
Ted slid right by this oneClap
 
 
Originally posted by jackblack jackblack wrote:

How many brand new in the box dual 3-stage Ninja's does Ted have in stock today? He's the number one Ninja guy in Ontario.
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Thanks, Ted for making a focus on the fact that "there are different" 3 stage vac's (design).
 
Our great Canadian friend, Sir Willy Parsons wrote:
 
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I dunno about TO, BUT in Vancouver, I use one to the wall in the kitchen, one to the stove and one in a seperate wall outlet. 3 cords, no grief. View Post
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Has anyone used a converter from the dryer plug converted to 110 amps and with 2x 20 amp plugs to plug these monster machines into. ???? just curious cuz my son works at an electrical supplier. I,m looking at portables and am looking at solutions to this problem in case I purchase one.
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Correct me if I'm wrong... Most all Manufacturer's are using the Amatec 116565-13 3-stage. The 116765-13 is the higher perf. and will blow circuits.
 
magnum PI? -- That will be such a pain in the a@@ moving washers or dryers or stoves to get to the 220.Dead Once you do that at a job good luck on repeat. It's that or a generator..
 
 


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    Good point hey I,m new and this is a great learning experience for me so bear with the questions
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You could offer a free cleaning behind the stove or dryer!Big smile
Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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Originally posted by magnum magnum wrote:

Has anyone used a converter from the dryer plug converted to 110 amps and with 2x 20 amp plugs to plug these monster machines into. ???? just curious cuz my son works at an electrical supplier. I,m looking at portables and am looking at solutions to this problem in case I purchase one.
 
2X20 amps=40 amps, a dryer is fused at 30 amps, the wire feeding the dryer is #10awg. therefore 40 amps would over fuse the wire and trip the breaker. The stove(fed with #8awg) is fused at 40 amps and could handle 2X20 amp circuits, however I would make sure the splitting device is csa approved, I have never heard of one unless it`s something someone has cobbled up.
Good Luck! (a genny sounds like the way to go)
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