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dennis_is_ok 
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 Topic: Which "SAFE" chemical is better?Posted: 04/July/2006 at 10:06pm |
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I am considering these three:
Anybody tried all three? I use a
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Posted: 05/July/2006 at 6:53am |
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dfc and ecogent are your safest bet. Dfc is the better of the two but thats
just my preverence. They also have DFC heavy duty cleaner which is a great product. Edited by huckmuck - 05/July/2006 at 6:56am |
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Michael
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Posted: 05/July/2006 at 12:39pm |
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Haven't tried Benefect. But if you go DFC, be sure to get 210 also.
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Posted: 05/July/2006 at 3:04pm |
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you saying the dcf wont work without a prespray?
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Posted: 05/July/2006 at 3:33pm |
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I put the DFC Heavy Duty threw my hydro force. Some put it threw their machines.
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Posted: 05/July/2006 at 5:53pm |
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If you use the Heavy Duty, that's your prespray.If not, you can use the 105 as prespray, but at 6 oz. to the gallon. It's way more cost effective to use 210 as your prespray, and then extract with 105 at 1 oz. to the gallon.
As for whether it will work without a prespray: you should always use a prespray. If you don't, it will work somewhat, but not as well as if you'd used a prespray. Always prespray. |
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Posted: 05/July/2006 at 9:50pm |
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DFC heavy duty cleaner.
Its the one my cleaners pick over the others.
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Posted: 06/July/2006 at 5:37pm |
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To each his own DFC 105 works great through the truckmounts, Heavy Duty prespray when necessary, have found DFC 105 works great on polypropylene berbers without prespray, don't forget poly carpets are water proof so all that prespray ends up at the bottom of the carpet and wick backs will occurr
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Posted: 06/July/2006 at 7:30pm |
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You're thinking of olefin. Polyester, olefin, nylon--in fact, most synthetic fibers--are hydrophobic, but the reason water sinks through olefin is because its specific gravity is greater.
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Posted: 06/July/2006 at 7:36pm |
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Michael Olefin is polypropylene?? And I dissagree with you???
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Posted: 07/July/2006 at 1:55am |
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Yes, olefin is polypropylene . . . and . . .???
Where specifically do you disagree? Do you disagree with my opinion, have you had contrary experience, or are you saying my facts are mixed up? Kinda vague so far. |
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Posted: 07/July/2006 at 1:54pm |
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polypropylene [olefin] is water proof absorbs less moisture than any other fiber, and that is why wick backs on this fiber are more likely to happen than the other man made fibers, and that is why I said the old way of applying presprays and allowing dwell time only made the situation of wick backs more common.
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Posted: 07/July/2006 at 3:09pm |
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I don't disagree that olefin is less absorbant than other carpet fiber types, and I never did. It makes sense that it would affect how the prespray is held/suspended, as will the fact that it has such a low specific gravity, which is the main contributing factor to over-wetting (as I was taught). Disagree? Contact Doug Heifferman, who is one of Bridgepoint's main instructors. I'm sure he'd like to be enlightened so he can stop spreading misinformation.
Also, wicking on olefin can also be attributed to the fact that its more susceptible to oil-based soiling than other fibers used for carpet. |
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Posted: 07/July/2006 at 4:50pm |
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Michael: could you explain to me what causes olefin to have a low specific gravity compared to nylon or wool or whatever? Are you also saying that it is oil based soiliing that is the cause of wicking in olefin? Please enlighten me?
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