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Ted you mean buzz words like "You got one of those machines that sits in the driveway and only the hoses come in the house" because after 28 years of advertising truckmounted extraction cleaning we still are asked  you got one of those things that sits in the driveway?

Mrs Housewife does not buy buzz words, she wants great, reliable service at a fair price, no hassle, no fuss, and no mess, just showup when you promise do it right,  Women are our market, men buy Beamers and they are the  Buzz words freaks.

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Some men are really influenced by buzz words, some aren't. Some women are interested in buzz words, some aren't. Some are interested in the details, some are only interested in the results. I had a very organized lady the other day phone us and go down a list of very specific questions. She was very intertested in the steps of our process.

Research has indicated that people don't base their wants on needs nearly as they base their wants on what others want, as Ted indicated. Want to look it up? I'll bet there are at least some summarized studies somewhere on the web. Try searches such as "mimetic desire marketing." 
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Boy oh Boy.........All this excitement just because Home Depot got into the carpet cleaning industry.......SO WHAT........WHO CARES.

Seems to be that only Mr. Steamer & Cleanex have the self confidence and belief in their product and quality not to worry.

You should all hope and pray that Home Depot spends MILLIONS of DOLLARS on advertising to promote carpet cleaning. Don't forget they have only 1 method of cleaning to offer if they are going the Chem Dry route........on the other hand you have several methods and can educate your customer on the differences and they can make their own choice, combine this with a competitive price, service & a guarantee ( insurance ) for 3 months after cleaning that you will return FREE of CHARGE in case of accidential spills, and you'll be the wiser & your customer will be happier.

Whatever Home Depot offers, outdo them and beat them at their game.

By the way mimetic marketing does not apply in the service indusrty 95% of the time.

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There has been a few negative posts regarding Chem-Dry - Home Depot.

I guess the good news could be the fact that if Home Depot are willing to fork out that kind of money to get into the carpet cleaning business they may know something we don't.

The world is saying carpet is out and hard-surface is in. So why would Home Depot purchase an empire that is decreasing in product and service?

The other good aspect of this is what Don Eldred said:

"We need big players to advertise and bring an awareness to carpet cleaning. Then we all win".

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I agree that consumers are pretty slow. Many don't care about RX-20 cleaning, because knowledge of the method hasn't filtered down yet. Here in San Diego, it seems only recently that people are getting away from "steam cleaning" and calling it "hot water extraction." Few know "bonnet cleaning" by that name; they usually associate the method with Chem-Dry only. They are also slow enough that they believe Chem-Dry is still a bonnet system. It's not. It's an RX-20 system. Some Chem-Dry franchises offer a bonnet option without hwe, but many do not. Eventually, they will all be tm/rx-20 systems.
 
Chem-Dry is still considered an alternative system around here. So, they have their following, but there also many would never use Chem-Dry (again). There are also many who hate Home Depot and would never use a service associated with them. Home Depot hasn't taken over our town, and I don't think this will be an exception. It's likely that the Chem-Dry image will remain mostly the same, with the major changes going into the business-side structure.

I don't know where you got that figure, Nightrider, but I would definitely agree that mimetic marketing is generally more product driven than most services, including carpet cleaning. I didn't intend to overstate the we-want-what-others-want argument, but I wanted to chime in as to its merit. Although San Diego doesn't have the same kind of "Mrs. Housewife" structure of many other cities--it's really too expensive here--the element isn't gone . . . and hey, women will be women. I don't have the years and years in the business that many of you have, but it's been my observation that people (esp. women) choose and stick with carpet cleaners the same way they do hair stylists. So what did I do? I cleaned my mother's hairdresser's house and left her a bunch of my cards. Her comment: "These ladies ask my advice for everything. If I tell them they have to use you, they will." I swear, some women treat their hairdressers like oracles.


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Quote from my girlfriend after reading this post over my shoulder: "Women care about the person they're dealing with. Even if the result isn't quite as good, they're concerned abou the overall experience."





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Ted. maybe Home Depot purchased Chem-Dry for the same reason that Ford purchased Jaguar in 1989.Jaguar was loosing millions every year.........Why did they buy it..............

Why did The Bay purchase Zellers................Zellers is not worth 2 cents on the dollar.........why did they buy them...........

Maybe Home depot just needed a tax haven, and they saw possibilities in Chem-Dry

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Although we see a lot of hard surface flooring, carpet is still being produced at about the same total yardage as it was before the trend to hard surface so millions and millions of sq ft of carpet is being sold every year. The last time I talked to the people at Shaw they told me they where experiencing an increase in carpet production, so carpet is still out there and needs to be cleaned.
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When people put hard floors in there house the first thing they do is throw down a rug and it is usually a wool area rug.  Most realize that this needs to be cleaned a certain way so that is where we should shine look to the speciality market start cleaning the things that chem dry is not going after.  If you are worried. 

We have worked very hard to make our clients loyal to us over the years so we don't lose alot evan though we are pounded every day here with telemarketers with better deals.  I am still busy every day of my life and so are my 7 guys and gals that rely on the phone to ring. 

Home Depot will not put me out of business I will put myself out of business.

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A turnover in this business will always provide plenty of work for all of us.... Big smile

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Chemdry claim to 1 hour carpet drying is what their main advantage has been over the years. In 2001 they attempted to do the same with a HWE system when they got the patent approved on the 1 hour dry RX-20 head with holes in it. At the time it was the ONLY HWE system that could do this, and they wanted to keep it that way because they were considering selling the company to a national retailer even back then. That all changed when I brought out holed Teflon glides back in July 2003, and I have been in a fight with them ever since. Why? Because the holed Teflon glides are the only other products that will allow their competition in the marketplace to compete with them on equal terms with fast drying carpets. For that reason, they are trying to shut GG and Turboteck down in the USA. They probably will suceed in the battle with GG, but they will not be successful with me, because my holed glides(for the RX20) were developed 2 years BEFORE they applied for their patents back in 1999. For that reason, Superglides will remain available to US cleaners long after the trail with HR is concluded in the months to come.Regardless of the outcome of the court case.Wether they like it or not.

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Fast dry times equate to half cleaned carpets, the faster you dry them the less likely you have done a good cleaning job. You can surface clean or remove the water before it even hits the carpet such as glides do and get fast drying, or you can clean properly and have 5 to 6 hour dry times----YOUR CHOICE!
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Fast Dry times and good cleaning are NOT mutaully exclusive of each other Don. Thanks to a principal called the venturi effect, it is possible to accellerate the speed of the air entering a wand and remove a greater percentage of the water in the carpet in the process. If you leave less water in the carpet after the cleaning, you leave less soil in the carpet as well since it is suspended in the water. The final proof of this can be shown by weighing the carpets after they dry. A square yard of carpet cleaned by a holed glided wand will weigh less than the same area done by an un-glided wand would. The lower air velocity at the wand/carpet interface removes less soil without a glide attached.Wands with glides can use water pressures 200 PSI HIGHER than those without because of this superior cleaning power which removes more of the gritty residue.By weight, that is the main soil in carpet with the most weight. If you dont remove it, the face fibers get abraided and the carpet has both a shorter life as well as a higher residue.
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When I use the RX-20, I agitate the prespray, do the rinse/neutralizing step, then buff afterwards. I usually get better drying times than I did when I was with Chem-Dry.
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