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Need to extract as much water as possible 1200 times faster then
dehumidification. Just my opinion ('')

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Brian, Thanks for you OPINION!
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Here's a simple question. What does Lrg's, mean ?

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Low Grain Refregireant Dehumidifier...It's the new technology of dehumidification also there is desiccant dehumidification.

Desiccants will get your vapour presure down whereas LGR's wil only get as low as 28GPP

A normal dehumidifier will dry to 55GPP

LGR dehumidifer will dry to 28GPP

Desiccants will dry down to the teens.

 

I have had our 8500 CFM units down to 2GPP

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Thanks We dry but I believe I am out of my league here. I will let you experts discuss the difference between which dehumidifier is good for the job.

 

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Hey there. No problem!

I was browsing through this site and seen that Ted has a rental division now. They have regular dehumuidifiers and LGR's. So if you ever need any I believe they have them.

 

Talk to ya soone eh!

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Thanks We Dry

Ted's always coming up with different idea's. It will be good for the carpet cleaner that wants to clean up a flood for their customer without sub contacting the work out or going through the expense of buying all the equipment for just a few jobs.

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100% Canadian and PROUD of it!

 

Yes, Ted will do great with the rental divisions. Hes and inventive man...Ever hear his message on his voice mail?.....lil...Elvis.........Well..Im sure we'll chat again....Talk to ya soon....

 

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We Dry, Thanks for coming on board.

You may notice that flood work has had more views than the average post in a very short time. I can only conclude that we have a higher than average interest in knowing about flood work.

This is still a new field for most and many are hungry for knowledge. I will attempt to put more efforts into this area and would appreciate and encourage you to do the same. Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks in advance.

Does flood work simply mean sucking up water and leaving with your fee? If that's you then you have only performed a very small portion of this whole big picture. Possibly many bad, unhealthy experiences and or expensive repairs may be down the road for your customers. Is it your responsibility to explain what they are? Do you know what they are?

I challenge We Dry to get more involved and enlighten us on what's down the road for those of us who want to become true restorative cleaners.

1. Where do we go from here?
2. Where are the learning institutions?
3. What's an average investment?
4. Can I rent equipment?
5. Do I have legal responsibilities?
6. How do I find moisture if I can't see it?
7. What's the difference between mold and mildew?
8. Is there a wholesale company that I can turn my floodwork over to and recieve a commision?
9. What are the health issues?
10. Do I need to be registered with any organization?
11. Is it difficult to get insurance companies to do business with a small carpet cleaner?
12. Can I be sued for doing a job incorrectly?



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Ted:  I think the Centre for Disaster Recovery in Barrie is a great start for anyone serious about this industry.  I guess that question was not ment for me.  But there are so many questions I didn't think one would matter.Guitar
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Hey Ted......Its We Dry just getting back to you.....

 

Here we go!

Does flood work simply mean sucking up water and leaving with your fee? = NO WAY........I wish it was that easy... ........There are many things involved in water damage mitigation..........Insurance, Liability, Equipment, Storage facilities and the biggest issue is future law suites against if you provide moisture control services and they are improper.

1. Where do we go from here? Everyone needs to get educated, not saying that we donít know everything but we all learn everyday new and better things. And better ways of providing our services. Education is the #1 asset you can have to your firm. With education you can prove what youíre doing and why youíre doing it. That is usually the biggest challenge that most water mitigation firms are faced with.

2. Where are the learning institutions? Letís start in Canada. There are two...One being in Barrie Ontario and the other in Hamilton Ontario which is my own school. Both schools have ASD, WRT, AMRT and many other courses to offer..Al courses are certified by the IICRC and some by the ASCR Foundation.....You choose, but most insurance institutes only will accept the IICRC as a certification.

3. What's an average investment? This is a broad statement....I donít know what is involved...Just water or fire?...If its flood you would need the essentials like, 25 Airmovers @ an average @ $375.00 = $9375.00....5 LGR dehumidifiers @ $2400.00 = $12,000.00.....Truck @ $700.00 per month with a leasing option @ 12 months = $8400.00......Extraction unit....Ted I donít know how much these are......Just add it in here if anyone knows....We are already at $30K....Thatís with just some equipment and a truck not with the extractor. We are not even including the cost of the extraction tools... There many more to include, insurance/liability, employees to perform this services, training in water damage mitigation.......Iím sure there are more this is a quick brief rundown of some!

4. Can I rent equipment? Equipment can be rented from Ted Harding, CDT International CAT and Munters. All provide equipment nationally and globally... Your best bet is renting through Ted Harding.....

5. Do I have legal responsibilities?  Well...YES. Yes it sucks but we all do......What if "we" think we dryed Mr. Ted Hardingís house and then 3 moths later he is calling back with a microbial issue... We are most likely liable for this...and it will only be covered by our own pockets. You do not want your insurance provider knowing that we have contaminated  Ted's entire house with mould spores........ So just a quick answer...we are all liable in every project we go in.

6. How do I find moisture if I can't see it? Informed cameras work well if you know how to utilize them. There only read temperature differentials........Non invasive moisture meters and an instrument called a boroscope......Your can get a boroscope that has a camera so you can see it on a small TV.....

7. What's the difference between mould and mildew? Mould grows on most building materials and mildew grows on plants.....

8. Is there a wholesale company that I can turn my flood work over to and receive commissions? Ted thatís what I provide....I do work for may contractors and they basically have me perform there water mitigation services and they invoice the insurance firms.

9. What are the health issues? Mould Mould and More mould...... ....You can get beat up with this very quickly.....Cross contamination in houses are a big topic. If you donít dry and contain properly then there are MANY health issues.

10. Do I need to be registered with any organization? Get registered with the IICRC and some IAQA organizations... Indoor air quality associations....

11. Is it difficult to get insurance companies to do business with a small carpet cleaner? Its hard to get insurance to use large national firms some times...So yes...And all you can do is keep trying and trying!

12. Can I be sued for doing a job incorrectly? YES YES YES..... If the insurance firm calls in another contractor and they prove that it was done incorrectly then they have a legit case!

 

Hope this helps.......




 

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Mr.  We Dry: What  ASCR courses do you offer. I am a member of ASCR and was just inquiring?Guitar
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We offer the MRT mould course....Do you have that one?

 

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Mr. We Dry: Good brief post you could have wrote an essay on this
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