Believer

who wants to wash pads in your home machine after cleaning up the nasties

I have a washer & drier in my shop for that?

well I don't....thats why I got a cimex...

MR. STEAMER wrote: I   if you think HWE is pulling out more than the OP you have another thing comming.

I think I agreed with you padman... I love OP I think yes ....it works...do I want to wash pads.. NO... do I want to carry around pads NO...  so is the OP for me personally...NO

"Cleaning products have MORE to do with that than method, plus adding more moisture to a urine situation often is exactly the WRONG thing to do to solve the problem."

I agree with the cleaning product part. But,I have to dissagree with your thinking that "adding more mositure is a bad idea". With Urine...Flooding it with OSR is not a good idea unless you can extract most of it out...And that is what the Water claw is made for.

    Heres my question...does the O.P system clean the carpet to the base of the fibre like the steam cleaning does or is it just more of a surface cleaning and after drying and a couple days of walking on it does it look like sh*t again?

Plus the carpet looking clean to the client if very important , but are they deep down clean? No one has talked about the factor of leaving the home knowing that the carpet you just cleaned is now clean and as been disineffected to the best of you abilities. I admit I dont know alot about the O.P system and I am sure it has its place, but no one has ever told me how you can say a cotton pad flushes all the dirty from the fibres of the carpet when there is no flushing or rinsing involved? Lets not forget also that Shaw recomendes steam cleaning for a reason.
    

Edited by wheelerman - 11/March/2007 at 11:15pm

      Heres my question...does the O.P system clean the carpet to the base of the fibre like the steam cleaning does

The question makes a huge false assumption, if you think steam cleaning cleans to the base of the fibers, you need to EXAMINE your carpets as you clean them, that is simply NOT TRUE and very easy to prove.


but no one has ever told me how you can say a cotton pad flushes all the dirty from the fibres of the carpet when there is no flushing or rinsing involved?

What most people do not understand is that what goes on between the wand and the carpet or the pad and the carpet is VERY SIMILAR, both utilize water, one depends on vacuum for recovery, the other absorbancy plus a wiping motion for recovery. Pads rinse the carpet, and they also do it with moisture, but not as much is required when you also have the wiping motion and agitation instead of relying simply on vacuum.



Lets not forget also that Shaw recomendes steam cleaning for a reason

Been to Shaw, they were interested in the GEM our CBM machine, they were VERY impressed with it, however when I was finished running it I asked to show them OP. They refused, at lunch I asked "do you think OP is too hard on the carpet?" their answer, "No, it just doesn't clean" to which I laughed, and stated, look both machines are the same price, I sell both, and use both, invariably OP does a better job, hands down no competition. In a side by side you can clean with a CBM and them clean next to it with OP and see a huge difference, then go over the cbm area and still cut a line of difference.

They didn't CARE, which showed me that POLITICS was the reasonsing, not performance or results.