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Lisa: I have spent enough money on these people the first year I was selling glides, and it got me nowhere. This was all before you and Greenie started selling glides back in October 2004. I refuse to do that anymore.

A month from now we will know who took the smarter approach here. If successful, I will have a licencing agreement in writing , and even you will have to admit you underestimated me. Or I wont, and I will admit here on this board that I was a dumbass in believing I had this wrapped up.We will see. 30 days goes fast.
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Originally posted by Ken Harris Ken Harris wrote:

Lisa: I have spent enough money on these people the first year I was selling glides, and it got me nowhere. This was all before you and Greenie started selling glides back in October 2004. I refuse to do that anymore.

A month from now we will know who took the smarter approach here. If successful, I will have a licencing agreement in writing , and even you will have to admit you underestimated me. Or I wont, and I will admit here on this board that I was a dumbass in believing I had this wrapped up.We will see. 30 days goes fast.
Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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You filed no papers in 2004, Ken, it would be public record. If you dumped a bunch of money in an attorney, they did nothing for you. In fact, you weren't even sued until 2005 at the same time we were...shall I post that document too?

NEXT!!!!!

Take care,
Lisa
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Ken, Youre such a doofusIdea
I'll make you TAP OUT!!!
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Originally posted by Ken Harris Ken Harris wrote:



I may have an unorthadox way of approaching this case, but I am still going to win it, but without throwing away $100,000 or more in the process. Remember, you can't beat HR by playing their game. They have been down this road too many times before, and know how to win it if you choose to play the legal game. The end result is what matters most here, not how you got there.

    


I swear that you posted just a couple of days ago how you were spending $20,000 or was it $50,000 a month on legal fees. If that's true, you have already spent well over $100,000 in fees. What's the real story here?
     

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Originally posted by Ms Lisa Ms Lisa wrote:

You filed no papers in 2004, Ken, it would be public record. If you dumped a bunch of money in an attorney, they did nothing for you. In fact, you weren't even sued until 2005 at the same time we were...shall I post that document too?

NEXT!!!!!

Take care,
Lisa



Lisa:

I never said I filed any papers in 2004 did I? No. Most of the money was spent in 2003 shortly after Connections when I needed to find out my options. The money still went to attorneys and patent lawyers. I needed to find out just how strong a case HR had in defense of their patent, and wether it would be possible to obtain my own in face of their oposition to it. The opinion given to me then was they would need at least $250,000 to prevail in the case, which would likey take at least 5 years to resolve. That is why I never mounted a legal defense this time around. The glides are not worth that kind of dollars or time commitement. The lip glides are 5X more profitable, and are not involved in the dispute, so I put my sales effort there instead.
    
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I swear that you posted just a couple of days ago how you were spending $20,000 or was it $50,000 a month on legal fees. If that's true, you have already spent well over $100,000 in fees. What's the real story here?


You are wrong about that Paul. I was talking about what I lost in monthly sales on the Fullsize glides these last 39 months because of the despute with both HR and HF over the glides. I have spent almost nothing in legal bills since 2004 when Aqua-Max closed in June of that year.
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OK. Whatever you say

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken Harris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/January/2007 at 12:38pm
    Not whatever I say. Read what I wrote below. No mention of legal bills:



Not a question of if, only when Dennis. The problems with HR have cost me roughly $50,000/month in cashflow these last 40 months or so. I was counting on that money to launch the products you are referring to.I expect to have it back again by this coming Summer . That is when these products will be put into production.
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Don't believe a thing he says and only a 1/4 of what he writes??Guitar
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SGG said that himself?? He is not legally responsible for what he says??Guitar
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ms Lisa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/January/2007 at 2:29pm
    BS Ken, maybe you've cost YOURSELF that much in casflow because you are such a flake no one will do business with you.

Other than BP corporate, name me one distributor who does not sell glides because of the HR crap.

I have not had a single disty stop selling due to HR.

C'mon Ken, you are lieing in the bed you made. HR hasn't killed your sales...your unethical business practices have killed your sales. That and people only have to deal with you so long before they find out you are a compulsive liar.

While I can't stand HR and what they are doing. I don't think they have hurt sales at all, in fact, if anything they have HELPED sales by limiting the number of competitors.

NEXT!!!

Take care,
Lisa
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