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MR. STEAMER 
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Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549 |
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 Posted: 15/March/2005 at 7:17am |
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LEE I'm not hiding ... my companies trade mark is Mr.STEAMER. So what if someones behind a mask or not... I don't know LEE STOCKWELL more than I know a SUCTION.... Just because you use an alias that doesn't discredit your information.... no on has to post anything here, we are not paid... so just go with the flow like dan said you have to weed through. As for your question why don't I work with my father??? I wanted something on my own. He was the one that gave me my first van to put my unit it. I'm not his shadow I'm his son. Actually Lee it's better when you use Alias' so your feelings won't get hurt, like I guess yours where. to Waldo... you are plain and simple just a fool, no need to explain anything to you.
The Duke of Earl I wear Stainfield Boxer Briefs I use Dove body wash gel and I love the feel of cottonelle toiletpaper on my backside I've been using them for 34 years I guess thats too much info
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Cleaner1
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Posted: 15/March/2005 at 5:35am |
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Thanks Mr. Steamer for the post about the cleaner with the slaes person in GTA ( Grandmother's touch) This is the information I was looking for. I am convinced this system of a sales person on the road with proven sales ability will work. I am glad to hear someone has actually tried it. I have been struggling with this for a while. I use to work for the competition as well and my previous boss use to do all the sales and marketing himself....but he had the best cleaners in the city....in business 25 years and a good guy to work for too. This method worked well for him...but if your strenghts are in cleaning and not in sales then why not hire a GOOD....and I stress GOOD....sales person to do the ground work. Later on I will hire/train another technician and so on. maybe I'll get on the road doing sales when I feel comfortable enough with my technician's. In the area we work in now, I have been doing the work for along time and my customers expect to get me...but that will change as time goes on....I will gradually phase out of cleaning and put my new guy in that position as well. Remember, we are expaning to a new area....hard to be in two places at once...so that's why the salesmen. Lee, I appreciate your input. How many different sales people have worked for you in the past? And how long were they with you? Did they actually know the cleaning business or were they just slaes people trying to get to know your business? Just some questions. I appreciate everyone's input here |
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Lee Stockwell
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Posted: 15/March/2005 at 12:31am |
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I was never "mad", just annoyed at the ease with which otherwise intelligent adults seem to degenerate to Jr HS level when behind a mask. This is the first internet forum I've participated in that has near total anonymity of the posting body. I participated on Cleanfax from the beginning in '98 and was one of the organizers of Summerfest from '99 on where real people got together and made a difference. Just about everybody used their real names unless they had something to hide. Just what I'd expect from a professional forum. I abhor "bogus posters" and cowards who can freely attack from behind a mask, and if they choose, can slink into the dark and change identities. If this forum's profile section had spaces for more info, I would give it, as it is on ICS, Cleanfax, and CCS boards. I'm real, warts and all. My business is real. My track record is real. I've had the same business phone number for 34 years. (270)-753-5827 If your caller Id is blocked, leave a message. Otherwise I'll pick up and talk (I don't care for anon callers either you've noticed?).
Thanks, Lee Stockwell Lee's Carpet Cleaning, Murray KY 42071 |
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danmarck82
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 11:58pm |
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Lee, what are you really expecting when you come to an internet forum?
Cleaner 1 asked for advise. It is up to him to try to weed out the good , bad and otherwise. Why would you be mad at people expressing their sincere opinions. Your sons must have figured out how to separate out GOLD from B.S. or they would not be so successful today, and so must all of us. I don't think any of the above posts were meant to deceive anyone just honest opinions from different backgrounds. IMHO |
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Lee Stockwell
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 11:33pm |
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It's funny having conversations with so many hiding behind aliases, maybe I'll get used to it. My son-in-law is from Orillia ON so I know it's not a "Canadian thing". Mr Steamer, why did you choose not to join your father's firm? BTW I don't believe my comments were particularly aimed at your posts, but to "advisors" in general.
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Waldo
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 10:42pm |
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You can tell a loser when he replies to his own posts. Mr. Steamer since Doug has left you are the biggest idiot on this board. Remember you can give no advice. Your a Sears Bitch.
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I Give My Customers What They Want: Clean and Dry Carpets
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 10:29pm |
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your both dumb
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 10:12pm |
but you don't know him so whats the difference... like I said talk is cheap |
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 10:10pm |
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Who's pissing Lee...... not one piece of bad information came from any one of MY POSTS. The most important part of carpet cleaning is.. the carpet cleaning... My father Owns a small Bottled beverage factory that employes around 30 people, HE HAS NEVER allowed anyone to mix the ingredients to his product. Why??? because thats the most important part of his sucess and he has to make sure it is done properly... My father the man that taught me everything I know about business would say"if the product is no good... no sales" and thats why he will always and forever mix the ingredients for his juices... He can sell to but he leaves that to the sales people....he says it's easy to sell a good quality product and he's right.. If you want to flame me... please use direct quotes from my posts... I did not tell anyone to buy a page in the yellowpages or get any fancy dancy programs, or a platinum Vortex. all I said was hire a sales man...and do the cleaning himself.... maybe later that can change but at first you want the best out on the road to service the customers.
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Lee Stockwell
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 9:02pm |
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Then can you spare a few words?
I could care less about winning an internet p-ing match, but many times I've seen a newbie get sold a bill of goods, either being convinced to buy a machine that the crowd cheers about (but doesn't own) or convinced to take a course of action that wastes scarce resources (and that the advice-givers haven't done successfully either).
I've seen many a young couple persuaded to buy that biggest YP ad, buy various expensive office gizmos, get saddled with crushing lease payments.....and then crash and burn. That's real people with kids and dreams crushed. Three of my married sons have their own truckmounts, and no payments. They have bought their homes. When I see a young guy coming to the boards to get advice I see my kids' faces. It pisses me off to see them get crappy advice from people who should know better.
Carry on....
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 8:26pm |
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Lee Stockwell
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 6:52pm |
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OK
Let's hear from any established firm who hired a salesperson as one of the first employees, and had that turn into a winning proposition that lasted at least one year? |
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 6:35pm |
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I think all the advise is good... it's not a text book situation... I seen it first hand myself... either or is good... just because someone has been there done that, doesn't mean it'll happen the same way everytime.... age is not wisdom... just remember that... It's your vision, and only you can make it happen... with hard work and determination anything is possible... people say impossible...but you work to make it possible If you listen to everyone you'll get no where... sit down draw up a business plan and go for it... focus grasshopper |
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cleanex
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Posted: 14/March/2005 at 5:32pm |
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Now there my friend is some good information, from someone who has been there done that!
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