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DietCoke 
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 Posted: 13/September/2010 at 10:34pm |
I find this forum to be rather clean compared to most forums that are rather heavily clogged with advertising. |
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LilNiteRidrhood
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Posted: 16/September/2010 at 5:52pm |
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Ted has asked me to comment on this thread but I find it impossible to take the time when I have one so called chemist saying most carpet presprays are cationic (which is thoroughly wrong, they would screw up the acid dye blockers) and another goofball like Nightrider who is part of the gang that gives carpet cleaners such a bad name. |
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nightrider
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Posted: 17/September/2010 at 9:04pm |
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Come on General Lee, I'm not a GoofBall, and I'm certainly not a Carpet Cleaner. I'm a Business Man, in thre Business of making MONEY .
I am NOT a Professional in any field other than Teaching. Cleaning carpets, walls, floors laundry etc etc. is a respectable labour choice, but not one that requires too much skill other that having 2 hands and at least one good eye to see what you're cleaning.
I'm certainly not responsible of giving carpet cleaning a bad name, although my posts might seem so..........it is the fault of the organizations which you give your hard earned money to that are the blemish to the industry. They are the ones who should lobby the government to have a permit requirement to clean carpets and all maintenance for that fact. Any immigrant that comes off the boat can scrape together 500.00 bucks and jump into carpet cleaning and call themselves Pro's.
There are 500 Tamils just waiting to get off the boat so that they can buy a portable, some Tide or Dishsoap and get into the Carpet Cleaning Business.
General Lee, over the past 7 years I got to know alot about you, You are a good father to your kids, a good husband to your wife, a very knowledgable Respectable PROFESSIONAL in the Carpet Industry.....but a very poor judge of character ( you should know me better than that General )
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Grutzy
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Posted: 17/September/2010 at 9:26pm |
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John L
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Posted: 17/September/2010 at 10:44pm |
Once a Brigadier General now a Colonel !
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 18/September/2010 at 12:25am |
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this thread comes up every year...LOL
Let me end this.... The customer wants the carpet clean... they have no idea what a cadillac or non-cadillac pre-spray is nor do they care about the damn acid in their dye-blockers...LOL Just get the damn thing clean...no matter what you use...that's all they want... all carpet cleaners just run around calling the other a Hack... If they guy is a hack...why do you worry he's be out in no time...or are you just jealous he's got way better marketing than you. He's getting the job with his hack ass and your not...he's cleaning your not!LOL
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duckcountry
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Posted: 18/September/2010 at 6:49pm |
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The man hit the nail on the head. Customers are not educated on our subject, just the ones that make them paychecks. They want results, not methods. Clean by any means.
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Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity?
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Michael
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Posted: 18/September/2010 at 10:41pm |
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I dunno, duckcountry. It depends on your customers, I guess. Those interested in "green services" usually have a specific interest in our methods and chemistry. It's pretty nice, actually, because being invited to demonstrate our knowledge and commitment to their interests helps us get off on the right foot. Anyone who markets their business as green should be able to answer a few questions. I've even handed a jug of HD DFC to a customer and invited her to check it out online. Nothing to hide and eager to share just makes me seem that much more trustworthy. Aside from those types, you and Steamer are pretty much right on the money. They just want clean carpet.
At the end of the day, I do my best and hope for the best. I'm not a scientist. I'm not even a tradesman. I'm just a serviceman trying to build a business.
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LilNiteRidrhood
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Posted: 21/September/2010 at 8:56pm |
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Nightrider- you never know who might actually try some of the ideas you put forward. You don't see what damage it does.
I invite you to come to my next IICRC CCT class on me---then you tell me if you want just anyone trying home brewed concoctions.
People need guidance in developing a system that is safe.
Safe for them to employ all of the time--not most of the time.
I just saw a guy pay $28K for a new wool/viscose carpet installed in a master bedroom. He cleaned it twice with a truckmount. First time with an enzyme. Ruined.
This is a very reputable company too. These things are happening all the time. I see them as an inspector. Its tough to tell people you know they are screwed. No one is out bragging about screwing them up either, so no one knows its happening. But I am the guy who does get to see them.
Yes 95% of carpet are dummy proof. 4.9% can be a bit of a hassle. 0.1% are a possible damage claim. But when you clean thousands of carpets I don't like the odds. I will stick to be safe but sure.
What I don't understand is how you are not getting horrendous wick back with using all these alkaline surfactants in restaurants .
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nightrider
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Posted: 22/September/2010 at 3:40am |
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I don't have a problem with wicking because cement and or concrete does not absorbe the spillage or the stain that was introduced to the carpet fibres. Secondly, as far as restaurants go, they don't even look at the job you did, they just see a cleaner carpet and they know that the inspectors will see the same thing, thus one less headache to worry about. They cou;ld give a rats ass about any stains that are left, and if they do.....I tell them, well you waited to long before cleaning it up when it happened and now that stain is like Herpes.....sorry I can't do any better, if you like I can leave you a portable machine for a week and you can have one of your busboys clean that spot 10 times a day if you like . ( They never take the offer )
As far as being your guest at a IICRC class, Sure I would like that. Let me know where and when.
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LilNiteRidrhood
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Posted: 23/September/2010 at 10:21pm |
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infinityinf
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Posted: 24/October/2010 at 12:43pm |
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I have been using sea salt for many years.
I would also recommend some chemical De-Foamers for extreme cases. They are more expensive but your will make sure your job doesn't get delayed or have any issues. The amount of money you could lose if a job didn't get completed is much smaller than the cost of these products. I use both sea salt and chemicals, depending on the situation. Sammy
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Soil Lint Green
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Posted: 24/October/2010 at 2:34pm |
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Salt takes the head off a beer in 2 seconds so I know it works to break down carbonates. I should test it in my wife's dishwater to see what happens and then look innocent. I have heard it also has a softening effect on water making for a lower quantity of detergent being required to get the same job done.
I know it is an excellent seasoning. |
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It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk.
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luigi
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Posted: 28/April/2016 at 7:03pm |
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Why would anyone put a defoamer in their cleaning solution? It goes in the waste tank.
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