Falling Down

doug wrote: Are SGG's glides not made in India???

No Doug, just sold there as they are in 39 other countries now.

Soil Lint Green wrote: Like I said, Republican - the rhetoric is soooooooooooooooo familiar.

And again you would be incorrect.

Soil Lint Green wrote: I remain loyal to the AFLCIO forever.

And millions were loyal to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei so what's your point, that your incapable of independent thought? (If so your point has been well made)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMVql9RLP34

Soil Lint Green wrote: Even if we break the back of the fragile "greed exceeds need" economy every worker will be protected.

LMAO!
Yea the tens of thousands of union workers laid off in the past year sure were protected under the collective, they are blazing a path for those to follow right into the unemployment lines

Soil Lint Green wrote: Better send the Pinkerton agents to mow me down.

Cite one such example from the last decade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWnxlFbYjVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUxjahek0f8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EId7itYniR4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnVewHEQP00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzLCk6CnBm0

Soil Lint Green wrote: You'll never get rich, join those who say none among us deserves more than the least of us.  Remember, the principles Jesus taught?

Cite where that was said by Jesus.

You state that but do you practice it?
Have you split your business equally among the people?
If not why are you so greedy?
There are many that have less than you, give them an equal share.






Edited by Chica - 11/October/2009 at 11:28am

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If a republican drops dead in the woods, does anyone care?

How does it feel knowing at least one decendent of a former slave is master of the whitehouse?  Bet those white folks of the former GOP love to clean the toilets for the new masters.

Maybe you could move to Alaska and help Palin keep an eye of those pesky Ruskies.

Your job waits for you in India.  Hope you like curry.

And could you return your unemployment checks to the government?  We would hate to see you suffer episodes of depression over the fact that socialism is what feeds you since you no longer have your job or apparently the skills needed for another.

Thank the decider for you the challenges you face since his 0 to 10 trillion debt is a big part of your problem.

As far as replying to your lies, face it, your group attempts to re-write history.  I know my facts.  I ignore your lies as the majority of Americans select to do.  When you grow up consider joining the working class movement.  The AFLCIO welcomes you, sinner.  Throw away your autographed posters of Glen Beck and Russ Quaalude and walk into the light.

GOTCHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Soil Lint Green wrote: GOTCHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahhh no you 'got' nothing as frankly; a) I was feeling sorry for you as you are making a complete fool of yourself, and b) you obviously have no intention (or ability) to break any of my arguments or stand behind any of your own. As I stated, ad hominem does not a debate win. But if you wish to keep dancing I'll put another quarter in the jukebox....

Soil Lint Green wrote: If a republican drops dead in the woods, does anyone care?

Did ya work up a sweat coming up with that or did you overhear a 5th grader?

Soil Lint Green wrote: How does it feel knowing at least one decendent of a former slave is master of the whitehouse?  Bet those white folks of the former GOP love to clean the toilets for the new masters.

Ah the ole 'I can't win a debate to save my life so I'll throw out the ole race card tactic to try and distract from the issue', Saul Alinsky would be proud of you. I on the other hand noticed some irony in this quote as I am someone who cherishes history/fact, so lets look at your statement a bit closer...

A sitting president is not 'master' of the White House (proper use btw) as;

a) it belongs to the citizens of the United States.
b) the President only represents one of three branches of our government, the executive.
c) Article II of the U.S. Constitution outlines Presidential powers and none grant him control of the White House
d) and lastly USC TITLE 3  CHAPTER 2  § 110 outlines who the 'master' is and it is not the sitting President LINKY

Moving on you state "at least one decendent of a former slave", I'm not sure what that is but do know what a descendant is. As such it would appear that based on a number of year long genealogical studies both the President and First Lady are in fact descendants of....

[drumrolldrumrolldrumrolldrumrolldrumroll]

Slave owners!

“According to the research, one of Senator Obama's great-great-great-great-grandfathers, George Washington Overall, owned two slaves who were recorded in the 1850 census in Nelson County, Kentucky. The same records show that one of Senator Obama's great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers, Mary Duvall, also owned two slaves.
The records show that Overall, then 30, owned a 15-year-old female and a 25-year-old male, while Mary Duvall, his mother-in-law, owned a 60-year-old man and a 58-year-old woman.
An Obama spokesman did not dispute the information and said that the senator's ancestors "are representative of America".

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And lets not leave out The First Lady as it appears she to is likely a descendant of at least one slave owner….

“According to researchers Melvinia was owned David Patterson who ran a plantation in South Carolina. In the estate owner's will, written in 1852, he listed "*egro girl Melvinia" in an inventory of his property. Illiterate, she lived with 21 other slaves and was valued at $475, Genealogists Megan Smolenyak,who conducted the research, believes Melvinia was most likely made pregnant by Patterson's son-in-law Henry Shields. At the time Shields was in his late 40s and had four sons. It is also possible that one of the sons, aged from 19 to 24, could have been the father. Historians said Melvinia could have been raped by one of the Shields' family, but the circumstances of the union are unknown.”


LINKY

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Facts sure suck when they cast a bright light upon one’s own ignorance don’t they, I guess that’s why you seem to stay far away from them. But since you brought up the race card and you brought up political parties and you brought up the concept of re-writing history those of us that know and cherish history know that the majority of black Americans were Conservative Republicans after the Civil War and…

-We know that it was Abraham Lincoln (R) who signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863
-That it was Ulysses Grant (R) that who oversaw the ratifying of the 13th 14th and 15th Amendments
-That it was Theodore Roosevelt (R) who was first to invite a black man (Booker T Washington) to be a guest at the White House
-That it was Dwight Eisenhower (R) who was first to use troops to desegregate schools in 1957
-That in 1868 it was Frederick Douglass (R) the 1st black man to be nominated for VP (and on the  Republican ticket no less)
-We know that in the same year the Democrat campaign slogan was “It’s a white mans party let white men rule”
-That it was not until 65 years later in 1933 that Democrats first seated black delegates at their convention
-We know that the Democrats have used as their poster boy Martin Luther King when he was in fact a staunch Republican Conservative
-We know that the first black Senator, Hiram Revels, was a Republican (1870)
-We know that it took you Liberals until 1993 (over one full century) to finally do the same
-We know that the first black Congressman, John Menard, was a Republican (1868)
-We know that it took you Liberals another 60 some odd years and some 20 plus black Republican Representatives to finally do the same

Shall I continue?

No I think between this and your own ignorant statements you have suffered enough, besides there is more to come….

Soil Lint Green wrote: Maybe you could move to Alaska and help Palin keep an eye of those pesky Ruskies.

Oh ya got me with that one… you’re the most brilliant poster ever.

Soil Lint Green wrote: Your job waits for you in India.  Hope you like curry.

Actually part of the company went to Mexico and the rest went to a ‘Right to work’ state, GO UNION!

(¡Curry es muy bien!)

Soil Lint Green wrote: And could you return your unemployment checks to the government?

Technically they would go back to the employer as that is where the money originates from, but you already knew that right, you were just testing me… [wink wink nudge nudge]

Soil Lint Green wrote: We would hate to see you suffer episodes of depression over the fact that socialism is what feeds you…

L… M… A… O…!
Oh my, I give you 100% percent full credit for having the ability to make me laugh, thank you.

FUTA (26 U.S.C. ch.23) as well as state unemployment taxation fall nowhere near the definition of  socialism as;
a) one has to first contribute (via taxation of their labor) before they can draw upon it
b) the benefits received are the voluntary choice of ones own to work

Sad that you are not even well versed in the dogma that you preach, but as I said it is good for a laugh.

Soil Lint Green wrote: since you no longer have your job

Try spending more time reading things you base your comments on (unless of course you enjoy looking so silly) as I am still fully employed until at least the end of the month or well into November.

Soil Lint Green wrote: or apparently the skills needed for another.

This comment makes me kind of sad, not for me as my reasoning for choice of direction was clearly stated in my first post as having nothing to do with skills but rather seizing opportunity and desire. No rather it makes me sad that you have such little respect for your own profession and that of all the other folks on this board. You see in your haste to insult me by stating that I have no skills and thus am forced to choose this direction you have forgotten that YOU are a Carpet Cleaner (apparently), along with all the other folks on this board.

So I guess were all just a bunch of no skills havn’ dirt-bag wand monkeys according to you.

Soil Lint Green wrote: Thank the decider for you the challenges you face since his 0 to 10 trillion debt is a big part of your problem.

I have to assume you are snidely referring to G.W. Bush, how clever of you, want a cookie?

As for the specifics of your comment I have to admit to my amazement at your complete ignorance of these ‘facts’ as you purport them, and as I have to assume that you sincerely believe. It’s pretty pathetic that one is so blinded… no… brainwashed by the uneducated that they become so unwilling to actually research what they preach from the pulpit.

The ‘decider’ as you call him did not create a 0-10 trillion debt, the day he took office the nations debt was ~5.7 trillion and on his last was ~10.6 trillion, so once again you are incorrect in your so called facts. Your ignorance of how our spending process works is also quite obvious, look at when the greatest amount of spending took place and who was in control of the House and Senate. While G.W.B. spent like a drunken sailor when leather face Nancy took over .gov spending took the form of a hoard of drunken sailors at a nudy bar.

And the spending continues today at a record breaking pace, by this time last year our debt increase had effectively halted and was actually starting to minimally trend down. But by Feb that trend not only halted but has risen at a record rate, in fact Obama, Nancy, and Gang have outpaced G.W.B.’s first term spending by this time at a factor of more than 10x!

LINKY

Debt/spending by this and the last 3 administrations has been appalling to say the least, to blame specifically one or another shows a complete and utter ignorance of historical fact, a ton of bias, as well as a lack of knowledge of how our system works. But this isn’t a surprise as most Americans are more concerned about American Idol than they are their own future.

Soil Lint Green wrote: As far as replying to your lies

I’ll give you $100 for each and every one you can cite.

Soil Lint Green wrote: face it, your group attempts to re-write history.

Again cite

(btw, beyond Patriot and Conservative I have no group and am an Independent voter)

Soil Lint Green wrote: I know my facts.

You have cited none, but feel free to start anytime.

Soil Lint Green wrote: I ignore your lies as the majority of Americans select to do.

Again cite these lies, how about I buy one of your books for each and every one you cite?

As for ‘the majority of Americans’….. LOL.
That’s funny because ideologically speaking ‘Conservatives’ make up the single largest group, and folks who think like you are the smallest. Here is just one of the hundreds of polls that show this, take a peak then take a few minutes away from reading up on your DU talking points to look up some of the numerous studies that have been done on this.

LINKY

Soil Lint Green wrote: When you grow up consider joining the working class movement.  The AFLCIO welcomes you, sinner.  Throw away your autographed posters of Glen Beck and Russ Quaalude and walk into the light.

Okay now click here and let‘s all be good little Bundists and sing your rallying cry to das Vaterland !

At this point I would like note that I’m done with you as it’s obvious you have no intention of doing anything but partaking of ad hominem to the point of ad nauseum. Be this because you lack the ability or desire I do not know but it is largely irrelevant at this point. If you choose to stand behind anything you state or directly refute what I have said I’ll consider it but otherwise consider yourself …..










And by a chick no less....


Edited by Chica - 16/November/2009 at 8:17am