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doug
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danmark: I have no secrets regarding urine. Just common sence. Urine contamination is a field all it's own. We wear saftey equipment because of tack strips and other contanination. I have had claims where you could put a butter knife down threw a hard wood floor and underneath the floor joists were rotten for the first couple of inches. The previous owners put new carpet over the hardwood floor to hid the unforseen. Every job is a whole new ball game and I treat them that way. This is probably not want you wanted to read but I am not an instructor just a carpet cleaner and I would not want to lead anyone down the wrong path. Everyone has a method and mine is probably not the recconized one.
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"This is probably not want you wanted to read but I am not an instructor just a carpet cleaner and I would not want to lead anyone down the wrong path." Doug, give me a break, This site, as all sites, should be used to exchange ideas and learn . That learning process is stifled when a person shares his or her methods and successes ( or Failures) with others and is lambasted by someone who criticizes the method, but is not willing to offer anything better in it's place. Why do you think there are so many " watchers" on this site . They are probably afraid to speak up in fear of having to go through the same bull-crap that I did, just to share an " INDUSTRY ACCEPTED METHOD" with the board. for 20 plus years I was a little frustrated with the feeling that I was not able to accomplish a urine decontamination with the same quality standards as the rest of my work. So I kept my mind open to new ideas, read a lot of articles and tried to learn from the experiences of others by attending seminars on Oder issues. For the past three years I have used the OSR and the Water claw. I still feel at times that it is not 100% . and we all know there isn't 100% when dealing with urine, short of ripping it out and starting over. So what is the next best thing. To me, it is trying to learn what others are having success with, and being open to try things that others have said "works". Explain the limitations to your customer, make sure they understand that it is contamination and that you can't just "deodorize it " . Explain your method and your pricing , Get permission to proceed and " Get R Done". Lesson : Don't criticize a post unless you are willing to share a better method of your own. It's in sharing that we all learn and PROSPER!!!! Doug, If you haven't had a chance to see a water claw in use maybe Ted can arrange a Demo. Like any tool it has it's place. After using one for a while I think you will realize it helps in getting some of those spills up that used to wick... like pop and coffee juices etc . Good Luck ! |
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some secrets best left untold.... Everyone has to have a trade mark... we can't share everything
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Danmarck, I think doug owns a Water Claw but I will mail him a video tomorrow. Yes the Water Claw amazes me. |
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All I use is common sence. Unfortunately in some cases that may be against the law.
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doug
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danmark: Don't critize. Who the hell are you talking to here. Are you some kind of saviour or what? You give people a false sence of security. You contaminate their indoor enviorment with chemicals which may or may not be harmful to them. Do you get an authirization to subject these people to your chemicals? Do you explain the pros and cons of your chemicals to these people? Oh I forgot the water claw that is your secret weapon of mass contamination. The same people you lead to believe you have solved all the carpet problems can live a longer life. The next day they probably go to a faith healer get hit on the forehead, cleanse their bodies of all diseases, now everything is ok. I wonder if the faith healer uses a water claw. Just for those hard to extract virusrs?
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Do you use chemicals to help your customers with their pet urine problems?? Answer your own question ....Do you get authorization to use chemicals on the carpets you clean? give me a break. Do not most customers assume that something other than water is used by most cleaning companies to clean there carpet? They wash their clothes with detergents , they shampoo their hair with chemicals , they wash their dishes etc. etc. What is your point. The customer is given the option of having the carpet torn out or use chemicals to help neutralize the situation, it's their choice. Again I do not proceed until I have informed the customer of what procedures I will take to help remedy the situation and get their approval of the process. I make no guarantees. I tell them upfront as stated in the previous posts that you can not possible eliminate the total urine problem from the top. ( where is the false sense of security you refer to .) I am not promising anything other than I will do my best to carry out the procedures that I explained to them . They agree to these procedures. They have every right to ask for M.S.D.S. sheets if they are at all concerned about the chemical I use. My M.S.D.S. Sheets are available in the van to any customer for the asking. Doug , Do you not use chemicals in your cleaning process?? As far as the rest of your post. I haven't a clue as to what you are trying to say. Anybody else here understand.... ? |
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danamrk: I am going to bring closure to this as you have you way and I have mine. Mine is not to mask but to physically remove any contamination peroid. So if your happy and you know it clap your hands
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JavaScript:AddSmileyIcon('[=D%3E]' Thanks Doug, Not one customer in 23 years has ever asked me to remove the carpet because of urine. For most, it is just to expense an option. Almost all the time they refuse to get rid of the pet ( that caused the problem ) and know the problem may reoccur. I try to offer options. We agree to disagree , Doug . JavaScript:AddSmileyIcon('') Thanks for the posts. |
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danmark: You have been around alot longer than I. It would certainly be boreing if everyone agreed on everything. I sometimes dissagree just to keep the post going.
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Customers don't care...they say just get it as clean as you can...
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Mr. Steamer: I guess my customers are not as easy going as yours. |
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MR. STEAMER
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no I tell them the truth....sometimes I'll even pull up the carpet to show them... some don't want to spend any extra money...they rather live in the piss and shi t |
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Mr. Steamer: That I can believe.
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