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John L
Carpet Cleaning Guru Joined: 29/November/2004 Location: I'm Right Here! Status: Offline Points: 4013 |
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Posted: 26/October/2012 at 9:12pm |
No offense but that sounds like a tank also!.. $4500. OMG! a great bang in your wallet.. I bought a 20" rotary for $500 brand spankin new and it can do anything the OP's can do maybe more like finish sand woodfloor, stain woodfloor, level off a cement driveway if there is a lump, T&G, VCT, strip, buff... etc etc.... So i could have 9-20" rotary's for $4500 @ 9 different job sites depending on the size of the job. Now thats a great bang for the buck..lol.. Have to say you made a nice machine Padman. |
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Ed Valentine
Carpet Cleaning Specialist Joined: 14/September/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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The Padman is an exceptional small business person who recognizes what the common Professional Cleaner (mostly) dreams about: "Personal Attention & Service"! Something rare these days.
His equipment is built like a tank and will serve one for a very long time. So, from that standpoint, it is a great bang for the buck! Very best; Ed Valentine cross-american corp. I have seen his equipment and the pride he has in every piece and component he has to offer.
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PadMan
Dr. Low Moisture http://ccsop.com Joined: 11/March/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1032 |
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Actually let me explain a couple of things about OP, the HOS has an orbit or offest of 1/4 inch. the Trinity has three orbits all much larger, the amount of movement over any given carpet fiber is 1 1/2 to well over 2 times what the orbot produces.
Another example, we HAVE to have a minimum 7/8 shaft to drive our counterbalance, the HOS has a 3/8 inch shaft, it takes ALL of our 1 HP to operate the Trinity, a 1/3 HP will run the HOS fine, they put a 3/4 or 1 HP on their machines to make it LOOK like they have the same oscillation.
I have patented anything OVER 3/8 oscillation, and patented anything more than one speed plus several other attributes of the Trinity, I am working on an Orbot today and found the Counter balance is the same as our old blue machines of the 70's. They have a very nice design, but that has LITTLE to do with cleaning efficiency.
Many HWE cleaners moved to the HOS because it was so EASY, however, easy movement with LOW head weight, and low oscillation, makes OP, but not high speed or deep clean OP.
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allcylinders
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Hi Padman
Interesting reading, I am sold on OP. Please tell me what the difference is between the Trinity and the HOS Orbot, as there orbit speeds and rotation is very similar Trinity is 1725 OPM plus rotates @ 100 RPM. and I believe the Orbot is 1725 OPM and 80RPM. Look forward to learning more. |
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PadMan
Dr. Low Moisture http://ccsop.com Joined: 11/March/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1032 |
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"New Method of Cleaning?" The building of the Trinity™ was intended to give cleaners an edge on production so they could clean a lot more carpet in a day and thus basically "give themselves a raise in pay" instead of raising rates in a slow economy. We knew that extending the orbit would do a couple of things, first speed up the cleaning process, secondly it would enhance the quality of cleaning as well. We hoped it would also stand up the carpet quicker thus eliminating the need for some to use a dual method such as a CRB and OP together, which hurts production time. However in testing the Trinity™ we have found quite a few things that we not expected. We found that microfiber worked better than cotton or glads, not because they picked up more soil, but basically because they DIDN'T. Now I know that sounds ODD to say the least but bear with me for a while. By using the microfibers (which BTW we not worth a toot on the slower speeds) we actually kept the pad full of moisture and because microfibers basically beat OUT the moisture from itself under OP as compared to rotaries, this enabled the Trinity to keep a level of moisture flowing between the the pad and the carpet. At this high speed, the moisture which basically is just water and cleaning product, is moving and circulating at such a force as to require (1) about 1/3 the cleaning product, (2) clean MUCH faster, (3) remove spots and stains that would normally require spotting agents to remove them. Yet the carpet are dry in about 45 minutes and look incredible. We did see the carpet fibers stand up MUCH faster plus we had an added benefit, the nubbing that has sometimes been produced by slow speed OP machines is removed! The larger orbit pulls the fibers farther from center before the counterbalance moves back over the center of motion so that the fibers do not only NOT nub up, but they actually stand up and no damage CAN be done to the carpet fibers. Carpets that WERE nubby are now denubbed..LOL Is that a word? Carpet stand much longer after cleaning, groom up beautifully. What about cleaning though? Here is the interesting part, using 1/3 the cleaning product (encapsulants) we finally are able to utilize the properties of encapsulants that have evaded us for years. I personally would never ENCAP I would PADCAP because I found that it produced much better results, no matter what some said, testing proved it simply could not be straight encapped to hold up nearly as well as padcapping. But now I am saying DO straight encap??? On our church, we cleaned Church Cleaning Now this is done where my peers at church all get to see it, they were amazed and commented on how it looked so great! They know it is my new machine and were extremely supportive about what we had done. Coby Gibson who has been using his said this about a resturant that he does regularly: Cut the time by more than 2/3rds using the Trinity™. Did in 1/2 the time that it took 2 Easy Glides working together with less than 1/2 of the cleaning product. Did two jobs earlier today that were over 200./hour with a helper. My helper did over 75% of the carpet cleaning on both by himself with the Trinity. Again, Less cleaning products, less spotters, less time, less training, MORE money. Kathie our employee has been super excited because she gets paid on commission and it making more per hour than ever, she said: I cleaned the Thoroughbred club for the first time with the Trinity™, awesome results. I usually am cleaning it two or three times a month during the races. It gets really nasty from the special sauce they use to serve with steak, etc.. I am most usually there half the day (9-1) with the Commercial Breeze, using hel-gel, and cyclone. I didn't use either just my usual Pad Cap Pro and Blaze, only not nearly has much. Tile cleaning: The Trinity™ is exceptional at tile and grout cleaning, first we use a Grit II brush plus we turn it at a super high speed, and with the new bearing setup we can keel the machine way over to dig grout lines without any fears of hurting the bearings. The speed and head weight of the Trinity™ enables one to clean tile at a speed not seen before, we did a bank in Beattyville Kentucky , without the Trinity™ I would not have even bothered to try and clean it. Here is a little video of what it was like Trinity on Grout and Tile The main reason I purchased the Trinity™was because it cleaned tile so well. I have a 400 pound propane scrubber that does not do near the job the trinity will do on tile. So far the testing is surprising even amazing us in many areas, we continue to test for other benefits and am sure we will find out more as time goes on. I was OP, when OP wasn't cool |
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