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John L
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Posted: 13/October/2007 at 12:05am |
Any portable running 100' I would add a booster.. You are losing so much when you run these long hoses on portables without booster.. I've been there done that on every carpet install variety..
They are not made for long runs.. Not enough lift..
You sure wont get 1hr dry times.. unless you add air movers.. post pad..
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FriendlyHammer
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You're going to need vacuum boosters with that machine. You'll also have to test the longer solution hose to see if you like the output of the wand jets. |
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Jeff Van Buren
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Depends if your PSi and CFM will make the distance strong enough I had a King Cobra 1200 and it would only run 25' my recoil can run 100+ foot so yes many recoil owners leave in van and have generators
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In19944
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I own a cc business and was thinking of buying a generator for my porty so I could have both options of taking the porty inside or keeping it out in the trailer and using more hose. That way the customer doesn't even have a chance to see if it's a porty or tm and I could also do my own 3 story apt. contracts w/out dragging the porty up 3 flights. Is it even possible to use a generator on a heated porty??????(it's a u.s. products HP 300)Thanks |
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Robert_EcoDry
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As Michael said, it's all about making a good impression. Show the customer you're a professional and you know what you're doing, and no one will say "boo" to you.
As for customers who specifically ask; that's a tricky bit of salesmanship: Customers equate TM with "power" and you need to sell them on 1. "My system is very effective and efficient." 2. "We are thorough and professional." 3. "We guarantee the quality of our work." If a customer on the phone asks if I have a truckmount, I emphasize those three points, and also tell them about our use of an RX-20, and how we're not relying on mere pressure and suction to effectively clean the carpet- we're THOROUGH, as the RX-20 allows us to be. Remember you're also selling YOURSELF, not just a process. Oh, we've had three people smirk and comment on the "Ninja" sticker on the side of our portable. I swear I'm going to take that thing off... |
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Michael
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I've been working with a Ninja paired with an RX-20 for the last couple of years. For the convenience and power, I'd rather have a truckmount. Easier to set up and it takes less time to do a good job. I haven't been able to justify the cost of a tm yet, though. Every now and then, someone will ask about tm's, etc. I shift the focus to the RX-20 and the post-bonnet. The van looks good, we look good, the equipment looks good, the carpet looks good. If they have a bad impression seeing the porty, the other stuff redeems us.
The heat's really good. It seems better now than it was in the first few months. Don't know why. Maybe it needed to be broken in? I get water from a utility sink, kitchen sink, tub, or hose. I use a clean jug and transfer it to the machine. I prefer to start with hot water so the heater doesn't take as long to do its thing. |
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toolman
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Well I have been running my business for about 6 months now with a portable, and I have to say it is a little bit of a pain at first moving in and out of customers homes but it get easier every time. I have cleaned lots of carpets since I started and I have not had one complaint yet. I always focus on taking my time to assure the carpet dries fast. I have even had some customers tell me that I have done a better job then the last guy who had a truck mount. I am not saying that a portable does a better job because I have never had the chance to try one, but I really believe that if you rush your job then the results will show. |
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Ed Valentine
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Checkmate;
Although I know what you are trying to say, I disagree with the generic way you have stated it. You don't know about "Other" options that Jeff had tried to convey. Anyways, the very, very best to you; Ed Valentine |
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checkmate
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I know all about the sucess that you have had using portables in the residential sector John. All I am saying is that if I was in the residential carpet cleaning business, I would want a truckmount machine. Like I said before, I have done lots of houses, even know I dont advertise to do so. I personaly dont like bringing my machine up and down stairs or looking for plugs and carring buckets of water across the house and dumping it in there tolit or bushes. Not only that if I had five houses to do in a day I would not want to be loading and unloading a machine in and out of my van. Then there is the physiological factor, you and I both know that a portable machine will do just as good as a job as a truckmount, but if carpet cleaning company "a" is advertising that they use the big fancy butler system and carpet cleaning company "b" is advertising that they are using the deluxe Ninja 500 with heat. We both know who will get the job first.
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Jeff Van Buren
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I have one of Ed's cross american machines after having 3 different ones and find its in a class by itself. No having to lug upstairs,room to room. Will allow long hose runs, plenty of CFM and adjustable PSI to 500. I added a glide to my wand and have excellent dry times and great cleaning power 60% of my business is residential
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John L
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Checkmate.. You haven't got enough "In the field" experience.! Ed sure nailed it right.. I did well with 4 different portables for many years.. With nice results..
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Ed Valentine
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Checkmate;
"Portable machines are not ideal for doing residential carpet cleaning. I have two carpet ninjas" _______________________________________________________ A very interesting comment I must say. I can see that you "asummingly" put ALL PORTABLES into one category of a squirt & suck generic machine........right????? I think I have l-o-n-g proven your theory/comment wrong in some interesting with very l-o-n-g success. Sorry. Ed Valentine cross-american corp. |
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checkmate
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Portable machines are not ideal for doing residential carpet cleaning. I have two carpet ninjas and they work great for commercial cleaning. I do not advertise to residential consumers. But, every so often a commercial customer will ask that I come out to there house and clean there carpet. I have done this many times and never had a problem, but they know right up front that I will be bringing my portable.
Edited by checkmate - 13/September/2007 at 8:28am |
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FriendlyHammer
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Sweet!
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