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    Posted: 28/March/2004 at 10:02am
sorry man it's lanceromance1@hotmail.com no z.
nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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Originally posted by LilNiteRidrhood LilNiteRidrhood wrote:

That is so much bull.

The Wools of New Zealand and Woolsafe have actually made this a standard. pH of 4.5-5.5 or an unbuffered pH of under 8.5.

Use regular shampoo and cold water, the cold water won't make the least bit of difference.

AGAIN BAD ADVICE YOU ARE OFFERING.

But I guess they don't know asmuch as you eh??

Ask Jim Smith of Woolsafe North America what he thinks of your cold water only rule!

He'll say inadequate.

This is the type of info that needs to get out to people and again you are just trying to shout it down.

SAD

Good I'm glad you made this post....The company is called Magic Carpet & Rug Cleaning it's in oakville....www.magiccarpet.ca it was an IICRC CEC class...and you just called it garbage...

They call it river washing...they put the area rugs in a shallow pool of water.....the reason the color doesn't run because the cold water locks the colors in...

Lilhood look up the name call them and you tell them what you just told me...You Tell the IICRC what you just told me....

and while your at it...since you said its garbage...tell them to give me my money back....

btw thanks for the info you sent by e-mail...I will read it

Everyone has a different approach we all don't do things the same
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Your e-mail is bouncing back as non-deliverable Greg
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its not just alkalinity that makes colors run, ive had colors run testing with just water. lancezromance1@hotmail.com
nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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I think lilniteridrhood is preparing us for some courses.

We should all find out where they are being held and go learn.

Come on guys lets run for it.
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Post your e-mail and I'll forward you the latest info and third party testing, no problem.
i'll check this board in the AM, anyone else just include your e-mail
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oh who says you???? and didn't know you knew everything....whats your book called I'll run out and buy it right now...

 

your sad...this is method against method...you have your view.. and I have mine..

who are you to say it's wrong...prove it...post your link..give me a book to read...I want facts...

I'm not running any where



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That is so much bull.

The Wools of New Zealand and Woolsafe have actually made this a standard. pH of 4.5-5.5 or an unbuffered pH of under 8.5.

Use regular shampoo and cold water, the cold water won't make the least bit of difference.

AGAIN BAD ADVICE YOU ARE OFFERING.

But I guess they don't know asmuch as you eh??

Ask Jim Smith of Woolsafe North America what he thinks of your cold water only rule!

He'll say inadequate.

This is the type of info that needs to get out to people and again you are just trying to shout it down.

SAD
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I think not....if you took the cec in area rug cleaning you would have seen the river washing technique...which promotes the use of cold water ...the cold water locking in the colors....

I'm sure I said something in my post that everyone understands...I don't have to fool people with big words and the Ph scale..thats grade 9 chemistry son...you are impressing no one
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Again bad advice.

It is absolutely vital to use a cleaning solution of 4.5-5.5pH or if using a higherpH that it is not buffered.

Its alkalinity that makes the colours run.

It may not be the first cleaning or the second, maybe its the third.

Also all wool fibers have cuticles that hold and hide a ton of dirt. A wool rug should be properly dusted (industry jargon  for mechanical agitation or air pressure)before cleaning.

Any TRUE pro would insist the wool rug be taken out.

WRONG AGAIN MR. STEAMER
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I don't think anyone here is stupid....of course your going to warn the customer about the hardwood underneath...some customers don't care about the hardwood.

You warn because you don't want to have to pay for it later.

Trust me you will. 

I know a lot of customers don't like to have their rugs taken out...it's an inconvenience for them.

Greg you do what ever makes your customers happy, and I'm sure your competent enough to let them know if there are any dangers.

If you wash with cold water the colors will not run.(1 free trick)
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Greg : So you are HWELess???? Do you offer in plant services?  What else can your clients do but hang their rugs out when you just left them a house full of wet rugs. Oh I forgot HWELess that would mean they should already be dry when you leave.  You want to hope your clients don't find out that their rugs can br taken out, cleaned and returned or you may not have them to impress with your HWELess metbod.
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not every one does hwe doug. our process uses less water. in 14 years i've never damaged anything. and if you were listening i use host on bleeders. yes bleeders doug everyone here knows the difference between bleeding and crocking. and yes doug some of my clients hang their rugs out to dry. thats up to them, if your doing both sides of a rug your not going to put it back down on the floor, use your head man. bottom line you do what your client wants, not what you prefer.
nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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