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    Posted: 08/January/2005 at 5:50pm
What about it

I am a big fan of Ecogent 2 works as a great rinse

Cross american Attack (pre spray) netural Ph

And if I need a boost all agent just add a little hydrogen peroxide to the pre spray mix.

also amazing as it may be a little dwell time and pre scrub does wonders.

I find many of the boosting agents will just about give me an asmtha attack

some of the products your spraying on the carpet are very toxic

add your high heat truck mount and all that not only goes into the air but atomized!

that also goes for enzymes that are freely used.

Some say they use natural enzymes but no safer.

those enzymes can be reactavated in your sinus.

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what cleaning agents do you have a health problem with?

Mine for one would Sodiummetabisulfide AKA Hation cotton cleaner or coffee red wine remover.

Be very careful with this stuff

you could put a customer in the hospital or yourself.



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So very very true.

The most common ingredient used by many is Butyl Cellusolve (which goes by many different names) CAS 111-76-2. This has a TLV (TWAEV) of 20PPM to the skin!! And we're cleaning carpets with it.

I have spoken to a scientist at U of T who insists that most enzymes are extremely tough on the sinuses and thats the reason why its not a common ingredient in laundry detergents. The EU is introducing new laws regarding the use of enzymes.

 

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I like to keep it neutral for the most part

 

but for nasties I'll use something not so "safe"

 

I've tried Ecogent and didn't get the greatest results........worked really good on wool and good enough on upholstery.

 

maybe I'll give it another try in the future

 

up until recently I was a huge user of Ultrachem but I've been leaning away from it because of some adverse reactions to some of my spotters,but of the neutral cleaners I've used it is the best performing for me.

 

 

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We do not use Butyl in ANY of our products.
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Nordic 1 is that what you used to clean that carpet??? I used prochem Dry Slurry and nothing happened... with the machine at kill temps 230...

It might have lightened half a shade..lol

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Terry uses a SuperBane machine to get the carpets clean.
Inventor of the Superglide glides for wands.Seller of the 3/4 hp Ultra OP machine that retails for only $1695 US. Sahara Cotton Pads for your OP machine sell for only $5 US each.($7 for Super Pads)
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The other secret of course is to use freezing cold water, not that steamy stuff you use Mr. Steamer.lol
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Great Thread, NORDIC 1 !!!

 

 

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for once he post something nice.....lol
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Originally posted by LilNiteRidrhood LilNiteRidrhood wrote:

So very very true.

The most common ingredient used by many is Butyl Cellusolve (which goes by many different names) CAS 111-76-2. This has a TLV (TWAEV) of 20PPM to the skin!! And we're cleaning carpets with it.

Lee sometimes you get so technical that I have no idea what your talking about.  Hope you don't use these kind of phrase's with your class next week. Simplicity is the way to keep them awake.

 

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Nordic

You have made an excellent post. More and more people are becoming very aware of just the things you are talking about. Different people show different sensitivities to different products. For you it is sodium bisulphite, for others it is something else.

It is generally accepted today that 15% of the North American population is chemically hypersensitive. Using 3rd party approved healthy products offer you a great marketing and sales advantage to meet this growing market. It is estimated that we have over 100,000 synthetic chemicals today and only a small percentage have ever been tested. ECOgent is certainly changing the way we think and i can also tell you that in a couple on months we will be upping the ante again

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Sounds great Jim.  For such an environmental guy you sure have a mean eye.

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The one thing about product testing and this covers food and medicines is that they are only tested by themselves and not in combination with anything else. Aspirin may OK some wine may be OK but both.....never tested. May be more difficult to do but some combinations are pretty predictable. Same in our industry.

Atomizing the air the the BIG SMOKE = a pack a day ????

 

 

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Whhat is natural in this synthetic world we live in?Guitar
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