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    Posted: 07/September/2004 at 9:28pm

  Just dropping by to say hi and that this wonderful world of carpet cleaning has supported me through high school and university.  Throughout the years I have been in and out of the business but now have a renewed desire to build it beyond a one man operation.

I know, I have a long way to go.  Just looking to get a few pointers from the masters on this site ( whomever you may be)!  And offer my two cents whenever I get inspired. 

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Hey gmoney welcome to our site.

I was watching you watching us and was wondering when you would join in and say something. Did you by any chance save the equipment that helped you through school, or were you working for someone else at the time?

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Gmoney: Happy to hear from you! I also notice you appreciate the value of getting carpet dry fast. That is a good thing, as long as you beleive in getting them clean first! I have been working on this area for 7 years now, just shortly after getting my Cleanco TM. If you are interested in learning how to clean carpet well and dry it fast, using HWE(hot Water Extraction), I beleive I can help you.

 

The first thing you need to know is how to loosen the soil in the carpet without using alot of water at the preconditioner stage. Too much water added here without the use of vacuum will cause you to over-wet the carpets primary backing. Once you do that , you are in for 24 hour dry times. This can be avoided for the most part by applying a high strength pre-conditioner to the carpet at 100 psi or less and then working it into the fiber with a grandi-groom brush. I'm assuming of course that you have already pre-vacuumed the carpet before this step, cause if you haven't, you are going to be making mud, and all subsequent steps taken after that become less effective. When finished raking in your preconditioning solution, let it dwell for 15 to 20 minutes for optimum results. If you want to use a TM and be able to have the carpet dry to the touch within 2 hours using a wand, you are going to need to use a glide with that wand.

 

Here is why. Modern TM have blowers in them that are capable of moving 300 to 400 cfm of airflow at 12" mercury(HG) lift, but they dont. The reason they dont is because the vacuum system they use is only as strong as it's weakest link, or area of greatest restriction. That place is where the wand lips meet the carpet. We call this area the wand/carpet interface. WCI for short. Because a wand has very narrow SS lips on it in most cases, when these lips are sucked down to the carpet under vacuum load, not much air makes it through them. How much you say? In my testing of this with an anemometer, I have found this to be 100 cfms or less most of the time at a 12" HG lift, even when used with a TM with a 400 cfm rated blower! The net result of this is carpets average close to 8 to 12 hours to dry in the GTA.But there is a way to improve this dramatically.

 

The glides I developed for wands(Superglides)are designed to double the airflow that can get through the wand lips while cleaning to close to 200 cfms. They do this through a wider surface area of up to 4 sq inches on the surface that comes in contact with the carpet. Compare that with the .5 sq inch of surface area that SS wand lips have. The increased area means they can not lock down onto the carpet and choke off most of the airflow.But because of the slot on them being placed at the lowest point of the curvature of the glide face, they actually remove more water from the carpets back. Because you see, that except in the case of wool, the face fibers of the carpet hold onto very little water. Most(over 80%) of it lies on the carpet backing. A conventional wand has the least airlow when the lips are on the carpet, and cannot get alot of this out. Why does that matter? Because it is actually the cfm (airflow) that carries the water away, and it has a saturation point. Onced reached, the available air cannot carry any more water out. The only way to overcome this is to letting additional air in to carry additional water away, or make extra vacuum passes. Doubling your available airflow up to 200 cfm from 100 cfm to do this makes more sense than having to use double the vacuum strokes.

 

You should still do 1 dry stroke for every wet stroke of the wand to get the best extraction however. After doing this, the payoff will be a carpet much cleaner than the competition can deliver, and a carpet that will feel dry to your customer in 1 to 2 hours most of the time. Your customers will be thrilled with results like these. You will get so many referrals that you will be forced to raise your prices to keep up with all the new work you will have. This happened to me. From .10/ft I was charging in 1997, I was forced to move the price up to .50/sq ft by 2002. In my case I was using a RX with specially designed skids that both cleaned the carpet very thoroughly while drying it in 1 hour or less, but the same can be done using a wand today with the use of glides on a wand. The end result is the same, with slightly different routes to get there is all.

 

Today I still clean part-time during the warmer months out here in Calgary, both to test out the equipment I develop and to look after some of the customers I have been cleaning for for over 20 years now, but most of my time gets spent designing equipment to improve the businesses of carpet cleaners still working out in the trenches. My job is to help make there job an easier and more profitable one. Anytime I can be of assistance in this regard, just ask. I will post my answers on this board so as many cleaners can be assisted with the answers as possible.

 

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Yes Adwa,

I like to observe.  I guess you can call  me a voyeur.  Just joking!

Most of the time I was scanning through the archives and enjoying the banter back and forth between individual like Mr Steamer?, Doug, Nightrider, Padman etc.  Reading all of these threads consumed all of my time on the board that no time was left to post.  But I have dipped my feet in and you will be hearing from me a lot  more. 

I have kept almost all of my equipment; not that I use it anymore though.  I have a gigantic Clarke steam cleaner (100 PSI) that is ancient.  I would not take this to a customer's house now no matter how desperate I was for a machine.  It would be the equivalent to driving a Renault le car or Skoda (remember those) to an import car show.  But to tell you the truth it works well as far as I know except that it is SO unsightly.  If anyone knows of a carpet cleaning museum I just might donate it.

Next I have a little blue 60 psi Cleancare that also works fine.  I used to specialize in car interiors and did a lot of dealership work and this machine was ideal.  I now have a 400 PSI machine that I use for residential and commercial with great results.

The rotary I have is fairly old but I still use it and it has never given me problems; more than I can say about my steamers. 

I have worked for a few companies over the years ie. Interior care, Diligent but never lasted more than a few weeks.  Prefer working for myself and just can't get over the unequal sharing of profits.  Some of the positives about working for a company was the ability to learn because they try and keep you busy and the steady stream of work.

My worst experience working for another company was when I would do a call in the west end at 12pm and have a call in the east end 45 minutes away at 2pm.  That was crazy!  I was driving more than I was cleaning.  Left that company quick.

 

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Get it clean, and get it Dry!

 

Had a teacher that taught me that about 20 years back. Still true today.

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Thanks Superglide,

You make a very strong case for your superglide technology.  Do I get a free sample!  The 1 hr or less drying time with your modified RX sounds impressive.  Almost not believable but I am keeping an open mind.  I wonder if Ted has any in stock so I can do an test drive. 

Thanks for the advice on carpet cleaning procedure.  I currently do not pre-vacuum but I will start to encorporate it.  And my pre spray is at about 50 PSI with hot water and I get good results.  I personally like the idea of pressurized Pepsi canisters as opposed to the Hydroforce.  Just my preference.  Rarely do I clean at 400 PSI I think it is overkill (correct me if I am wrong) and clean in the 250 PSI range after a good pre-spray and agitation.  Although I have not measured drying times, the carpets I clean probably dry to the touch in the 4hr range tops.

Looking forward to putting your superglides to the test.  Will invest in them if they pass my test and are reasonably priced of course! 

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Welcome aboard gmoney...  most times I have nothing of substance to say, but a forum without any post is very dull.  Hopefully you'll feel comfy posting your interest and Ideas.  Don't take anything anyone has to say to heart, you have to make your own choices.  GREAT to have you aboard, any help I can provide don't be afraid to ask

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Gmoney: Using pressures greater than 300 psi with your HF sprayer is only not neccessary, but counter-productive. It causes much longer dry times. What you are using now sounds right to me.

 

Regarding the Superglides: One thing I forgot to mention, cause I was concentrating on the drying improvement with using them, is the increase in productivity you get using them. Because the wanding requires less than half the effort as before, you clean at least 20% more carpet per hour than before. If you were a cleaner doing $100,000 per year in gross sales, and could fill even half of the extra time with more cleaning, you make an extra $10,000 per year, nearly all profit! Considering the glides cost $125 and last more than a year in use, the payoff is pretty good.

 

Regarding the RX skids. Ted used to sell them last year for us, but does not have the new ZRX2 models in yet. I hope to change that soon. I may be down to Toronto in November for some glide demos if there is enough interest for that. I would bring a set of them with me for demoing for anyone interested in seeing them.

 

 

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Thanks for the welcome Mr Steamer.  You always entertain me with your posts and I have even learned a bit from you by reading between the lines. 

My first question for you and anyone else on the forum is: what your take on the superglides?  Do you use them and if you have you noticed any improvement in terms of effort and drying times.

Not that I don't believe you Superglide; I would just like to get a cross section of feedback from those in the field who have used or are presently using it. 

 

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Great idea, Gmoney. I always do the same or do a demo of the products I buy first before I buy them. That is why I love the Try before you Buy program that Ted offers at Kleen Kuip. You give a deposit on the glides and you take them out and try them for a few days to make sure you like them, before you buy them. As risk free as you can get!I do not want anybody buying them that is not satisfied with them. That is bad for business for everyone concerned. Glides I sell myself all come with a 30 day satisfaction or money back guarantee as well.

 

 

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Do they make a glide for the butler wands????? anyone know.
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Danmarck: We are the only manufacturer that makes the Superglide style of glides. We have asked Butler(and other manufacturers of wands) to send their wands to us so that we may fit them with glides. Butler chose not to respond, so there is no glides currently available for those wands.

 

The SSU802 glides that we currently sell will fit more than half of all capet cleaning wands currently in use . It is 12" wide and fits all wands that have a 5/8" lip thickness and use replaceable SS lips. That covers the majority of them out there. We also make the glides for the Prochem Titainium wands and the Prochem 4 jet wands, as well as the glides to fit steamway wands. The Cleanco 2 jet wands do fit the 802 glides BTW, so there are lots of you out there that can use this. Ted tells me that the Century type wands that he sells fit it well too.

 

 

 

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Hello gmoney,

I see by your picture that you use a Hydramaster Jetless Rotary Machine. This means you are already cleaning a drying well above the national average compared to wand cleaners. Not bad for a part-timer.

We will be watching your company expand.

Congratulations!

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You know Ted, I thought the same thing when I saw that RDM in the picture. But then I thought the shark I have in the picture was not a true likeness of me either, I better proceed on the assuption that Gmoney does not have one. Because if he does have one, the only thing that can leave the carpet drier than one of those is the glides I make, as was demonstrated last October when we were doing the demos in your store.

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