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Topic: Sapphire Rotary (Hoss 700) Rating
Posted By: Alexarz
Subject: Sapphire Rotary (Hoss 700) Rating
Date Posted: 14/July/2011 at 9:25pm
I've been using it over the last 3 days under different situations (restaurant CGD, residential lightly dirty, residential heavily soiled) and give it a grade rating of a C. I discovered tha main cause of the problem, an inline water flow restrictor. After removing it, cleaning proficiency was greatly improved.



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Posted By: cleanex
Date Posted: 18/July/2011 at 2:30pm
what did you not like about it?  still waiting to test one   Pro's and Con's would be appreaciated

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Posted By: cleanex
Date Posted: 20/July/2011 at 12:44pm
Alexarz   What where you using with the Hoss   Truckmount or Portable..If a truck what brand?

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Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 27/July/2011 at 7:30pm
I think I might be able to get it to flow more and do better. I'll let you know.


Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 01/August/2011 at 5:34pm
I removed the water flow restrictors and it made a big difference. 


Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 01/August/2011 at 5:34pm
Originally posted by cleanex cleanex wrote:

Alexarz   What where you using with the Hoss   Truckmount or Portable..If a truck what brand?


ProChem Peak as well as a ProChem Everest 650.


Posted By: steed
Date Posted: 09/August/2011 at 1:13pm
Looking it purchase this unit. Is it any better than previous unit (rx`s and drimaster units) Thanks for the update and the water flow reducer in the unit. The Drimaster unit look similar but does not have the flow reducer. Any further updates in this form are always helpful.


Posted By: steed
Date Posted: 25/August/2011 at 6:29pm
PURCHACED ONE LAST WEEK, GUYS USED IT FOR A COMMERICAL REST. JOB WORK GREAT. REMOVE THE FLOW REDUCER , BECAUSE OF COMMENTS FROM OTHER FORUMS BUT DON`T THICK IT WAS REALY NECESSARY. LESS FLEX HEAD MOVEMENT THEN FROM THE RX-20`S WHICH MEANS LESS MAINTENANCE ISSUES. WORTH THE PURCHASE FOR MY GUYS.


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 26/August/2011 at 1:15am
I saw one in operation recently.
 
A great tool for a TM or 3 or 4 vac high performance portableSmile


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Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 28/August/2011 at 3:28am
Looks like a rotovac 360 i Geek


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 28/August/2011 at 12:54pm
Originally posted by 77748 77748 wrote:

Looks like a rotovac 360 i Geek
Might look like one, but is a much more powerful machine. Probably alot more durable too IMO.Smile

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Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 28/August/2011 at 2:49pm
How is it more powerful  when the power and the heat are coming from the tm
This is just a wind turbine design machine that gives it a zillion passes in a seconds and stands the fiber up deep clean) a restoration which also glides on carpet with very little effort.
And they look  very similar except tubing  moved around  which is preference.

If anyone has a bad back you would absolutely love either of theses units. Mucjhj lighter than the RX20. Especially going up the stairs.

I have been doing olefin carpet using the wand and spots kept reappearing in between visits and I Rotovac  360i them and gone the glass tube helps. Resolved.Clap


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 28/August/2011 at 4:14pm
Two thing are different.
 
First the electric motor on the Hoss is more powerful.
 
Second, the glide design is much more aggresive. That lets it both clean better and be more effective, especially in commercial cleaning situations.


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Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 28/August/2011 at 4:49pm
Ok! This is what I would also look at the connection of how they run there chemical and vacuum hose (personal stlye) on you like your harley designed. When you use one for the first time you will know why I said that think , harley .
The other reason is Cha Ching ! What is the price difference?

 I can tell you this rotovac has been great?

So far the sapphire  removing flow restrictors ? Eating Snacks


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 28/August/2011 at 6:47pm
For this $1000 extra the Hoss costs I would still prefer the 360i for most situations. It is still a very good machine. However, if my cleaning were 90% commercial or more, my choice would be the hoss.Smile

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Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 29/August/2011 at 5:25pm
Thousand more! I can pickup a Rotovac 360i for about 1700.
What is the best deal for the Hoss??? Happy Shake

This is what this site is all about !


Posted By: steed
Date Posted: 29/August/2011 at 10:07pm
Let it go! this post is for the Hoss 700. Who cares if you got the rotovac or hoss or what dollars amount. I buy for what  this company needs for the moment, staff needs and for its quality and production, cost is secondary.  I dont care for the child chat. This is a business for adults not children.
Dennis


Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 29/August/2011 at 11:57pm
This is a forum we chat about it all. This is what we are here for to learn.
Looking at your posts you really don't chat much at all.
We all purchase what our company needs therefore I agree with you to a point.
If you don't care about  why or what, then why did you post  that you have one.
After reading the posts we have compared and have been discussing the product
of pros and cons. Sometimes you have to do a little more than just be able write a check.




Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 04/September/2011 at 12:40pm
Who in the ...   Cursing   Nah, nah      anyways    . These are great restoration units. Lightweight and I have charged extra money to use them. Makes the fibers stand up giving it that deep clean after drying its like walking on a pillow.Tools like this makes you the best.


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/September/2011 at 2:47pm
Anyone useing the Zipper for Commercial? Whats your opinion on that Ken compared to the 360 and 700? Stern Smile


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 15/September/2011 at 8:37pm
Not as good John.
 
And you have to do all the work, which is the purpose to use higher dollar equipment in the first place IMO.


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Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 25/September/2011 at 8:30am
The Hoss needs to be modified with full width nozzles or it cleans way too  slowly. Once modified, it is much better on CGD than the RV360i and I agree with Ken, it is much better built. I also agree that, because of the 5 vac head design, is more suitable for a big TM than a small one or a 2-vac portable.


Posted By: dmreed4311
Date Posted: 26/September/2011 at 6:44pm
I always wanted to get a zipper but the price always kept me away.

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Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 26/September/2011 at 6:51pm
Too bad Rotovac could not put the type of quality into their RV360i that the Zipper folks put into their wand. Now that would be worth the money.


Posted By: 77748
Date Posted: 26/September/2011 at 9:56pm
Never heard of the zipper I just you tubed it and it looks more like a double vacuum wand with a a row of alot of jets. There is no turbine to it. It seems like one solid bad boy unit great for a tech that cannot get the hang of using a wand.

I still like the rotovac 360 i   Pad Cleaning


Posted By: Jim Martin
Date Posted: 24/October/2011 at 8:49am
you adjust your flow with the orifices....it comes with a 0.52 in it and you also get 2 different ones....a....0.48 and a....0.57....they allow you to change them according to type of soiling and to help balance your equipment with your machine.....

Here is the beauty of this machine...S.S. understands the concept of balancing your equipment with your machine...
this is set up so that you can change it as you see fit to adjust to the type of machine that you run...you can change the orifice........ find the perfect sweet spot for what you run...

unlike the 360i...what you get is what you get and if you run any type of machine that has some balls behind it...the 360i is just junk and there is nothing you can do about it....but hook it up to a portable and you have a good little machine that will clean probably everything out there....

There is only a few machines that I can think of that the full nozzles would not over wet the carpet..aside from that you are only looking for problems...your equipment has to be able to remove what you put down..the way these are designed to put down..more is not always better....you have flush and penetration at the same time...



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