Best Machine to purchase
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Topic: Best Machine to purchase
Posted By: Dodgeboy
Subject: Best Machine to purchase
Date Posted: 20/September/2010 at 4:27pm
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I am currently looking at a Ninja Warrior 500psi with heat and Janlink JL2600 also 500psi with heat.
My concern are the vacuums and the water pickup numbers.
Any guildance would be helpful.
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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 21/September/2010 at 11:55pm
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Stick with the regular Ninja UNLESS the Warrior has 2 3 stage vacs in it. The 2 stage model does not have enough lift to it. ------------- Inventor of Teflon Carpet Wand Glides.Free Glides for all Cleaners in June! |
Posted By: Big J
Date Posted: 22/September/2010 at 7:39am
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Could I throw my two cents into the ring? Earlier this summer I bagan a search for a portable machine and came across the Cross-American Recoil 3XPS. It is proving to be a great machine for me. It also has many options that make it very versatile. You would need external heat though...which can be a blessing on the maintenance side of things. It also comes with Great Customer Service! There are lots of good machines out there. Find the one that meets your needs and then go make money! I wish you the best in you purchase of a new machine! ------------- Jon |
Posted By: TA152H
Date Posted: 24/September/2010 at 5:27pm
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I can't reconcile you wishing him the best in his search for a machine, while at the same time mentioning the Recoil. My guess, based on your post, is you are working for Cross-American. The reason being, you type the name exactly, which makes it show up on search results, which generally indicates an attempt to generate sales. Most people would not fully qualify the name. Also, you closed the letter in a manner Ed V. likes to close. This isn't proof, so I could be wrong, but I doubt I am. |
Posted By: Grutzy
Date Posted: 24/September/2010 at 7:41pm
| No doubt Mr Ed uses a lot of aliases to praise the Recoil and market it. |
Posted By: canoer5222
Date Posted: 24/September/2010 at 8:08pm
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I have to agree with Big J . No alias you can check my profile. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NDmDxdnGLY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NDmDxdnGLY |
Posted By: Grutzy
Date Posted: 24/September/2010 at 9:09pm
| LOL! You are just kidding, right, Canoer? You don't actually think that we believe that you do not have an association with Mr Ed after hearing him commentate your video, do you? While the video portrays a nice portable setup, why not just talk about the machine and the setup instead of trying to pull the wool over our eyes? |
Posted By: canoer5222
Date Posted: 25/September/2010 at 6:42am
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Gutzy Never said I didn't ! Again show some Credibility to your statements. WHO IS GUTZY ?? Poster wanted to know the best machine to buy,period. Why must you and Tank always "Stir the Pot" when Ed V or his product is mentioned? JIM |
Posted By: Grutzy
Date Posted: 25/September/2010 at 11:35am
| I did not say anything bad about the Recoil above, did I? All I ask is that you don't pretend to be impartial when it comes to your promotion of the unit. |
Posted By: canoer5222
Date Posted: 25/September/2010 at 12:00pm
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First of all you assume that was Ed (not Mr.Ed) behind the mike. The video also shows the capabilities of my set-up. A video along with a complete profile (which you never have displayed) goes a long way towards ones credibility. Comments of the Recoil after 16 months? No maintenance issues,100 to 150 ft runs (extra dry strokes ,air movers), Complete initial investment paid off in less than one year! ,Repeat customers and referrals . Do I really need to post past threads containing your bashing of the Recoil and Ed V? There are many more threads (TMF) concerning problems with Mytee products than most if not all extractors. I try to remain neutral with their products since I do not possess one. Do you own a Recoil. What do you have ? FlipPhone ? Take some pics/video !! JIM |
Posted By: Dodgeboy
Date Posted: 25/September/2010 at 12:30pm
| okay guys, it appears I've only got one reply about my question. I am leaning toward the Ninja Warrior as the Janilink company has no service centers in or around my area which according to them I would have to ship it back to them for any repairs. The main concern is I need something with a strong water lift, also the high psi with heat. Any suggestions on other quality units. The recoil unit I wasn't impressed for the money. |
Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 25/September/2010 at 12:53pm
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I would go with the most attractive machine your local supplier deals. The business relationship is worth the small compromise. You don't have to have the "best machine" to do good work. You just have to know what you're doing. But then, having a 2" hose helps.
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Posted By: canoer5222
Date Posted: 25/September/2010 at 1:54pm
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Do as Michael says. I was only showing you what has worked well for me. Good Luck I have learned that more of a profile will earn you more responses. |
Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 25/September/2010 at 4:37pm
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In my opinion. all of the present portables are flawed, some much more than others and it would be best to purchase one that has the most potential. I recently bought a Mytee M5 with their new Wart Hog booster and the M5 is very good in most ways except for the following;
1. The body is too weak and the top collapses when the machine is in operation. I'm not sure what the long term effects would be but it should definitely have a thicker plastic body than it has. I would much rather have a heavier machine if it meant that the body would be more durable.
2. The Wart Hog (or whatever they call it) booster is nearly unusable as it comes from Mytee because the small waste tank ball filter (for the auto dump) clogs within minutes, causing the machine to overflow with waste water, damaging the vac motor and spilling filth on your customer's floor (if it is inside the house). I tried multiple fixes including using two knee-highs but even the slightest amount of hair/fur/sand etc. clogs the little ball filter and causes the machine to overflow with waste water as described above.
The little ball filter is suitable for the clear water tank NOT a waste tank. Somebody needs to tell Mytee or any other portable manufacturer who uses this setup that this renders their machine's auto dump useless. My Hyper Hippo portable came with a 8" tall cylindrical filter that took a long time to clog and was easily cleaned after each job. With the addition of an inline knee-high, it was never an issue. The little ball filter in the Mytee portables/boosters is horrible.
My plan is to fabricate a cylindrical filter (like the one in my Hippo portable) for the Mytee M5. I have only had the Wart Hog Booster for a few days and have not even been able to use it for more than a room because of the waste dump issues so I need to formulate a solution for this machine as well.
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Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 25/September/2010 at 7:28pm
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I would like to add that you should not pay any mind to the porty shootout at TM forum, where they tested used, beaten up and lower tier models against one another. Their primary critic is nothing more than a broke janitor, who brought in his beaten up, used machines and compared them to one another. While I agree with some of his criticisms toward the Recoil, his particular unit was bought used and damaged. In addition, he did not know the age or efficiency of the vac motors inside it. They could have been running at 50% for all we know.
How can somebody claim to have a valid porty shootout with used equipment? Despite what they claim over there, Locko is no expert on portables or carpet cleaning. He keeps criticizing the Recoil's performance based on his busted up machine. Successful portable users need to have an aptitude for diagnosing problems and that fool merely quits and blames the machine every time he gets himself in a "pickle".
In my opinion, the Mytee M5 is a great choice but even so, it sports some shortcuts that need to be addressed. Despite all its design flaws, the Recoil remains one of the better choices as well.
I just don't believe that there are many good portables out there to choose from. At least the Recoil has a good pump, decent vacuum power, auto fill, auto dump. Personally, I prefer the horizontal body style over the newer style upright designs. if Ed Valentine would address some of the design shortcomings of the Recoil, he would have a real winner. As it stands, I would pick the M5 (which in fact I did).
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Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 26/September/2010 at 1:08pm
| News Flash!! The first Air hogs were sent out with the wrong screen ball filters at the bottom of the waste tanks and that is why they were clogging. The ones they came with were not supposed to be used in a waste tank but rather, for a fresh water tank. The mesh is much finer and clogs quickly in a waste tank. Mytee is asking that all buyers contact them or have their distributors change out the waste tank screen filter for the correct one. |
Posted By: CleanImage
Date Posted: 26/September/2010 at 1:08pm
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In all fairness, I don't think Locko ever criticized the Recoils performance. Just some design flaws. And like you've stated, there isn't a perfect portable. They all have flaws. One thing I appreciate about John L is his willingness to listen to the end users and make changes when needed. I'm sure he will listen to the feedback on the AirHog as well and make any needed changes and take care of those who have already purchased the unit. ------------- Phillip Newell www.cleanimagemarketing.com www.cleanimagecarpetcare.com |
Posted By: CleanImage
Date Posted: 26/September/2010 at 1:09pm
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That's good news! You beat me to my post. :)
------------- Phillip Newell www.cleanimagemarketing.com www.cleanimagecarpetcare.com |
Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 26/September/2010 at 1:12pm
| Actually, Locko criticized the performance as well and raved about how the Recoil left a carpet soaked on a job. I agree with some of his criticisms about the design but he even went too far with that, saying the wheels should be out more from the back. The guy is a janitor hack and isn't in any position to criticize anything. His Recoil was broken when he got it and the vac motors were probably out of life. How is any machine in that condition fit for a shootout? |
Posted By: NJPSR
Date Posted: 27/December/2010 at 9:35am
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Well, my choices would be the Mytee breeze, recoil 3xps or Olympus machines.
That's just my opinion.
Nick ------------- N.J.P. Property Maintenance, "We take care of all your cleaning needs" |
Posted By: vacman2000
Date Posted: 01/January/2011 at 7:46pm
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For my money go with the Ninja 500 psi with the Fasco motor, not the Leeson motor Being a user and service center I would recommend not having the pump set at 500 psi more a like 250, as it puts a stain on the motor and with 2x3 stage vacuums 250 is all these vacuum can handle, without having to over and over the capet to dry it off. ------------- http://www.masterclean.com - Carpet Cleaning London http://www.masterclean.com - Carpet Cleaning http://www.leafletflyers.co.uk - Leaflet Distribution London |
Posted By: westcovina
Date Posted: 23/January/2011 at 1:22pm
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Go with the 2 / 3 stage vacs.
------------- http://www.example.com - http://www.carpet-cleaning-pasadena-ca.com/ |
Posted By: vacman2000
Date Posted: 30/January/2011 at 3:13pm
You are right there, there is no portable that does not give trouble, however, some portables to have body problems, they crack behind the switch panel, im not going to publically pull the manfactures machines apart ------------- http://www.masterclean.com - Carpet Cleaning London http://www.masterclean.com - Carpet Cleaning http://www.leafletflyers.co.uk - Leaflet Distribution London |
CleanImage wrote:Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 02/February/2011 at 11:56pm
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[QUOTE=Alexarz]Actually, Locko criticized the performance as well and raved about how the Recoil left a carpet soaked on a job. QUOTE]
Pull the trump card and blame it on the unit............
  We all know it was lockos performance that left the carpets soaked. You can use a 2x2 stage and get decent dry times on any carpet. I've done it boo-koo times!
And I'm sure many of you have.
We know its mainly your wand/tool technique..
 your method.. your style..  95% of ccers leave carpets/upholstery half dirty and sopped, in a hurry to get paid.  |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 03/February/2011 at 9:46am
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Ofcourse, Alex, as always "forgot" to mention that that Recoil system WAS PURCHASED used.
Hummm. Wonder why Alexarz has to hide behind 5 or 6 different fake names? One would think that if someone criticizes the same machine and persons who build them that they would responsibility have the guts to use their REAL name.
Wonder where he has been lately? Probably playing in his sandbox.
Very best and thanks, John L, for not only using your real name, but also having had years of experience with the RECOIL systems which is 360 degrees different than what Alex (has never operated btw) spews.
Very best to all;
Ed Valentine
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 03/February/2011 at 12:55pm
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Ed, @ least he mentioned a few good things.
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Posted By: TheCarpetcleaner
Date Posted: 09/March/2011 at 5:13am
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@ John L, I agree with u about this : "At least the Recoil has a good pump, decent vacuum power, auto fill, auto dump." ------------- always use the best |
Posted By: Alexarz
Date Posted: 16/March/2011 at 8:49am
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