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Cleaning Standards? Do we need them?

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Topic: Cleaning Standards? Do we need them?
Posted By: carpetologist
Subject: Cleaning Standards? Do we need them?
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 3:44pm

Cleaning Standards:
Do We Really Need Them?

Please find a reprint below written by the president of the IICRC and for those who don't know he is Canadian and operates a carpet cleaning business in the suburb of Toronto, ON.

Feel free to give him a call. He is a wealth of knowledge and is in an excellent position to submit constructive critisism to his board of directors.

Here is your chance to vent:

Carey Vermeulen
Glencary Carpet Cleaning
905-428-6327

During a recent phone conversation with an insurance broker I realized, again, the impact that the IICRC is having in the marketplace.

This gentleman was trying to find a way to market a new insurance product to the list of IICRC Certified Firms, and was asking me for some inside help. he was offering a unique insurance product, which he was in the process of creating, specifically for Certified Firms. The main requirements are that the firm be IICRC Certified and that it follow the published standard for that particular discipline.

What a compliment, and what a bonus for Certified Firms.

Just before my time on the board, IICRC S001, since revised as the S100 Standard and Reference Guide for Professional Carpet Cleaning, was written. At the time there was a huge communication gap between the cleaning industry and the carpet manufacturers.

On one side sat the cleaning industry and the cleaning equipment manufacturers, promoting what they believed was the best way to clean carpet. On the other side sat the carpet mills, hesitant to recommend cleaning or specific cleaning methods because they simply did not understand them.

Nobody was communicating, nobody benefited, and the consumers were getting less value for their investment. Ron Van Gelderen and Ned Hoppper of the Carpet and Rug Institute suggested that the IICRC write a standard for the industry on carpet cleaning, hence the birth of IICRC S001. The relationship between the CRI and the IICRC has blossomed ever since.

The same is true about the S300 Standard and Reference Guide for Professional Upholstery Cleaning. Until the mid '90s, furniture and fabric manufacturers simply did not understand the cleaning industry. Until the writing of S300, the only directions available for upholstery cleaning were the deck labels, supposedly saying whether the fabric should be wet (W) or solvent (S) cleaned, or just vacuumed.

Imagine that: just vacuumed.

It was about that time when I approached the AFMA, on behalf of the IICRC, to open the lines of communication between the upholstery manufacturers and the cleaning industry. With the help of Ruth Travis and Jeff Bishop, we were able to provide the AFMA with enough education about cleaning that they finally agreed to help with the writing of the standard.

The S300 task force had more than a dozen contributors from the furniture and fabric manufacturing industries. By 1999, we were done; the S300 was printed early in 2000. We have since been asked by the AFMA to sit on their Standards and Guidelines Committee to help write identification codes and cleaning standards for leather upholstery. Leather expert Lonnie McDonald represents us on this committee.

Our cleaning standards have as much or more technical and consumer information as many of the industry's training manuals. So pull your copy off the shelf or order one for the first time, and the next time someone asks, "Why use a cleaning standard?" open it up and show them the wealth of information inside.



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Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc.

http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies



Replies:
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 8:39pm
Standards:  There are so many standards by the time you buy one and read it it is outdated.  Lets take about the water Standard.  the insurance companies wanted a standard now what?  They don't want to pay to have you do the job by the standard.  A standard is for a perfect world unfortunately there is never a perfect world around when you need one.  There are to many interperations in a standard and grey areas.Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 11:40pm
too many grey areas... but no comment


Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 6:10am
Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

...  the insurance companies wanted a standard now what?  They don't want to pay to have you do the job by the standard.


Ain't THAT the truth.  Any insurance guys here?  Property managers? Go die.  Around here, they're hiring these $20 per room boyz:

Liability?  Whazzat? 
MSDS?  No, thank you.... I don't like Chinese food.
Soap goes into the fresh water tank, and stains come back, I've proved it.
Giddy-Up pardner!

ahhh... you get my point.

-Allen



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 6:17am
Allen you've only been cleaning for a week or so and already your an expert.  Lets not talk about something you know very little about unless you have the handbook in hand.  You have very little experience you just took the classes.  Leave the comments to the people that have been doing it for years.  No more IICRC talk


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 9:59am
Allen:  No more IICRC talk.  Let the people who have been doing it for years talk.  Talk about what.  For christ sake now the standards aare the devil's doing.  I think the problem with a standard is you have to read it.  The only time you liik at is after you screwed up and are trying to figure out what you did wrong.  Allen let the Seniors speak.  Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 7:48pm
IICRC needs to be improved...end of story.... It should be a training class, and we all should go back and take it...  Who first showed you how to clean Grand Master DougVader


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 7:53pm
Mr. Steamer:  Moses.Guitar

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Posted By: steamdragon
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 7:56pm
Mrs. Steamer, your full of yourself!

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Steamdragon the hotter the better.


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 7:58pm

I am full of Steam.....

Moses who do I know him????



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:24pm
Mr. Steamer:  Moses had a magic wand.  He just held it up and the dirt departed from the red carpet.Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:26pm
ooooooooooo you better not say that or you'll have the god watch all over you.  Blaspheming


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:28pm
Mr. Steamer:  I thought all the carpet cleaners in the GTA worshiped the God Of Steam   er?Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: steamdragon
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:30pm
What ever! Mrs. Steamer talks out of his ***!!!

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Steamdragon the hotter the better.


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:33pm
Steamdragon:  Is Mr. and Mrs. Steamer the same person or have you just changed his gender?Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: steamdragon
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:37pm

She's just full of Steam!



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Steamdragon the hotter the better.



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