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Topic: Wow, Wow, Wow
Posted By: carpetologist
Subject: Wow, Wow, Wow
Date Posted: 11/August/2004 at 8:46pm

What the %&#@ is happening to our industry?

Kleen Kuip has attempted to spice up the summer doldrums by offering pricing that could put us into bankruptcy if we continue. We have offered between 40% and 25% discounts on our quality products. Under our http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=506&PN=1 - Bargain Basement Specials our top of the line used but not abused equipment is selling for less than we paid for it.

And sales are down, down, down.

Is everyone going through a similar downturn?

It seems especially we can't give Truckmounts away and anyone who is serious about doing quality plus volume you can't beat without a Truckmount. Their has never been a better time to buy!

 Does anybody hear me out there???



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/August/2004 at 7:45am
Ted:  Everyone is working so god damm cheap trying to get the job away from their competetor they are working for nothing.  Most of the assh**es like Sears, The Bay and all the other BAIT AND SWITCH COMPANIES have screwed what other wise was a good living.  Know one knows what the hell a fair price is??? We have done it to ourselves.  We must be one of the only business that try to eliminate ourselves by trying to do the job for nothing.  I have to quite it's too earily and I have to put up with myself all god damm day!!!  As you can see I have no use for room and back door pricing!!  You can pay me know or pay me later.  But know matter what you may or may not get what you pay for from the soooo called largest, biggest, clean the most carpet companies in Canada.Guitar

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Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 12/August/2004 at 8:57am
Ship 'em to Australia.  I'll get rid of them for you with a massive profit for the both of us.

You guys (and Adwa!) don't know how lucky you are to have such a massive stock of useable second hand gear at affordable prices.  Sorry, maybe SOME of you do.  There's probabally a hundred 'lurkers' out there who should take their hand off their @#$% and do some business.

If you don't own a blower, then get down to KK & pick up a couple.  They'll pay for themselves with one job! You don't find second hand blowers around here.

Looking to get away from a portable?  Geeze-Louise!  He's got some perfectly useable TM gear at discount prices.  If you end up hating it, then you can still get rid of it for pretty much what you bought it for.  That's not true with buying new.  As a BONUS, you can research on the web what people who have those brands think of them: their maintenence cycle, their performance, their reliability etc...  You can't do that with equipment that has only recently been released! No one knows how it'll act in 2 or 4 years time.

Do you think I'd have set up with a portable if I had access to good stuff second hand?  I think NOT!  Do some research, pick up a bargain, and get thee some sweet new toys.

Just Do It,

Allen




Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/August/2004 at 10:18pm

Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

Ted:  Everyone is working so god damm cheap trying to get the job away from their competetor they are working for nothing.  Most of the assh**es like Sears, The Bay and all the other BAIT AND SWITCH COMPANIES have screwed what other wise was a good living.  Know one knows what the hell a fair price is??? We have done it to ourselves.  We must be one of the only business that try to eliminate ourselves by trying to do the job for nothing.  I have to quite it's too earily and I have to put up with myself all god damm day!!!  As you can see I have no use for room and back door pricing!!  You can pay me know or pay me later.  But know matter what you may or may not get what you pay for from the soooo called largest, biggest, clean the most carpet companies in Canada.Guitar
Well if I clean it doug you do...no bait and switch here no matter hoiw they beg me....plus give me an example of the bait and switch ... over charging maybe.... let me tell you you get the service what you pay for, even if you over pay...lol

It's the small cleaner like you and me that is not willing to drop the money into advertising... Get a name and build on it.

don't cry because other companies have cornered the market.  To many small guys do crap jobs...people want to call a name they can trust....

doug's carpet cleaning might not come back, doug's carpet cleaning won't pay for new carpeting, doug's won't reclean and refund the money..who is doug????? I know sears

I"M SURE AS HELL KNOW SEARS WILL....this is how the consumer thinks like it or not

I do well over 40 calls a week, there is no room for error, if I screw up I pay ...and pay big.

It's time for the little man to dig into their pockets.. you want big numbers put out the dollars

 



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/August/2004 at 11:07pm
Mr. Steamer: I've been down this road enough.  If you cleaned for the price you advertised you would be broke. It's all in the fine print.  If you had any BALLS  and did half the quality of work you blow about you could be on your own.  But you know what??? You god damm well deserve SEARS because apparently they are a cult and they have you brain washed.  Steamer make me money. Steamer bring me money. Steamer make me rich.  Steamer do as we say not as we do.Guitar

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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 12/August/2004 at 11:13pm

Steamer

Too many small guys do a crap job and people want a company name they can trust, are you joking. These big companies have such a turn around of employee's that haven't got a clue how to clean a carpet it's scary to think of the kind of work they do.

Fortunately I am wise to the industry and you are right people go for the name and have the regrets later. Boy can you tell your on the payroll.



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/August/2004 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

Mr. Steamer: I've been down this road enough.  If you cleaned for the price you advertised you would be broke. It's all in the fine print.  If you had any BALLS  and did half the quality of work you blow about you could be on your own.  But you know what??? You god damm well deserve SEARS because apparently they are a cult and they have you brain washed.  Steamer make me money. Steamer bring me money. Steamer make me rich.  Steamer do as we say not as we do.Guitar
There is no fine print on any sears flyer that shouldn't be there...loose backs, specialty clean and rooms over 200 sq ft... thats  all in fine print buddy...  If you going to attack attack with facts douggie....I'm an up front guy... I don't like sears anymore than you do.... but believe me when I say "it's all in the add"


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/August/2004 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by Adwa Adwa wrote:

Steamer

Too many small guys do a crap job and people want a company name they can trust, are you joking. These big companies have such a turn around of employee's that haven't got a clue how to clean a carpet it's scary to think of the kind of work they do.

Fortunately I am wise to the industry and you are right people go for the name and have the regrets later. Boy can you tell your on the payroll.

Adwa... PULEASE  there are only about 100 good cleaners in all of toronto, and they just bouce around from big comapny to big company..

 

what do you consider big anyways????

bay isn't big at all, money problems

cleanol is going down

sears 70% subs

Fresh n Clean who???

service master small work force SMALL

chem dry expensive and small

interior care... mostly in the jewish hi-end

some of these places only have 1 truck... sears has about 3-5 that do all gta

 



Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 14/August/2004 at 4:29pm

It is called THE RACE TO ZERO. You bone-heads are in a race to see who can get to zero profit margin first!

Glad I don't play that game!

SUCKERS



Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 14/August/2004 at 10:51pm

Steamer what are you a carpet cleaning spy. Do you chance around the people that work for these companies to know who they employee what equipment they use, and do you also know their profit margin.

Your scary man and the next thing you will be telling me is what days I do the laundry and the kind of soap I am using.



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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 14/August/2004 at 10:55pm

Splash

Your the very type of cleaner we all stand around and talk about and sucker is not what were calling you.



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 15/August/2004 at 7:19am
When someone make the rules and sets the prices it can only mean one thing. trouble for the guy who has to follow them.Guitar

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