Can't figure out what this is?
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Topic: Can't figure out what this is?
Posted By: pilediver
Subject: Can't figure out what this is?
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 10:14pm
CGD nylon 15 years old. This is not flood damage.
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 10:20pm
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Is this a home, hotel, office ?????? ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 10:34pm
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Hotel
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 10:45pm
What's on the other side of that wall?  ------------- 
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 10:47pm
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I would say that the traffic area is to a washroom. I would also say the floor behind gets scrubbed & waxed very often. check what the backing is on that 15 year old CGD. I would hazzard a guess that something is wicking from under the walls. did someone use gallons of water to strip the wallpaper or to wash the walls at one time?? In that enterance take a good light and rule out any shadows I believe it is called metamarisim. But Lee will clear this whole matter up in seconds? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 10:50pm
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This is throughout the hotel not just near the washrooms - not a flooded out bathroom.
Not light related as it is in hallways not exposed to outside light. Someone else suggested pesticides. What's metamarisnm? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 10:51pm
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Metamerism is the situation where two color samples with different spectral power distributions appear to be the same color when viewed side by side. A spectral power distribution describes the proportion of total light emitted, transmitted or reflected by a color sample at every visible wavelength; it precisely defines the light from any physical stimulus. However, the human eye contains only three color receptors (cones), which means all colors are reduced to three sensory quantities, called the tristimulus values. Metamerism occurs because each type of cone responds to the cumulative energy from a broad range of wavelengths, so that different combinations of light across all wavelengths can produce an equivalent receptor response and the same tristimulus values or color sensation. Two spectrally different color samples that visually match are metamers.
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 10:56pm
If you say so 
When was the condition of the carpet first apparent? -------------
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Posted By: hcciam
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:01pm
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has that already been cleaned? Or is that the before pic?
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:04pm
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Since no one knows anything and they have a new maintance manager its hard to say. It looks to me that it has been there a few years and it is on multiple types of carpet.
They own a portable that they claim they use on some of the sleeping rooms - I wonder if they tried to clean the halls and used some nasty stuff and also left it wet. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:05pm
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That's todays pix of Dunsmuir and I haven't done it yet Ron. I think it has been cleaned since the damage. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:08pm
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I agree with Doug. Something from under the wall has leeched out and into the carpet. -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:09pm
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Through the whole hotel? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:15pm
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That particular hallway appears that way.
Is the texture different in those areas? -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:18pm
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No. It looks like the dye is striped with a water mark edge on some and a halo around the striping on others. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:23pm
Here's some damage in the center of a hall and another close up of a corner
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:24pm
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Could be a pesticide or some other chemical that bleached the colour. Halos are usually associated with bleaching or colour loss -------------
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:25pm
Definitely bleaching in some spots. This one looks like repeated high pH cleaning  -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:27pm
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I wonder if someone used full strength prespray concentrate by mistake. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:27pm
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Did you look at the baseboards? Any signs of overspray as in pesticide application? -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:31pm
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Will look/ Got 10,600 feet to clean and that's not even half the place. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:33pm
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Overspray can be pre spray as well. Some people are pretty careless. We see it all the time -------------
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Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:41pm
| check the ph level on several areas, this may give you a starting place. |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/June/2007 at 11:52pm
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Good idea! I intend on doing that and crocking my presprays too. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: Jeff Van Buren
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 6:27am
| Just for grins and giggles I would do a demo area with encapsulation and pads. Cleaning the fibers and not overwetting to not create the wicking effect |
Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 7:36am
| Prespray from Loblaws + Rug Doctor |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 8:02am
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Maids spillint toilet boil cleaner probably doesn't help either? The previouc cleaner used a ph of 14 to clean the border, didn't rinse very well and left it to keep on working everytime something got spilled on it? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 8:03am
So what's your point?? It works for me?? ------------- Just My opinion |
splash_$$$_dash wrote:Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 9:44am
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SOA approved with a gold rating -------------
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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 10:15am
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Water damage stains. ------------- Inventor of Teflon Carpet Wand Glides.Free Glides for all Cleaners in June! |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 10:18am
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nope ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 11:13am
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It looks like it's been cleaned with a bissell, to save money. ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 11:36am
Who would do a silly thing like that?  -------------
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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 4:30pm
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Last time i saw capet like that it was the antifreeze that bleached the carpet after a pipe broke in an apartment. It leaked right out into the hallway by going right under the wall sill and stained the hall carpet. If this is not caused by that, then I suspect pooling would give a simular appearence. ------------- Inventor of Teflon Carpet Wand Glides.Free Glides for all Cleaners in June! |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 10:01pm
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I just heard about a 22 floor condo building in Mississauga that cleaned the whole thing with a bissell.
and the carpet got FUBAR... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 29/June/2007 at 10:24pm
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Looks good on them. Was your price too high? -------------
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Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 30/June/2007 at 12:01pm
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I would cast a high intensity lamp over it first and see if there isn't any huge shading issues here. I have seen it before.
Then if it is still brwoning under the light take a 30x microscope available fro The Source for under $20.00 and see what form of staining it is--i.e crystalline strucure, absorbed, colourloss,etc. The areas around the baseboards are frequently wiped down by housekeeping using oddball chemicals. See where the colour loss occurs--at the tips, right down to the base etc. |
Posted By: mrclean_47
Date Posted: 30/June/2007 at 5:20pm
| looks like a combination of pooling/shading + some bleached out stains and some sun damage and floresent light fading damage. and don't forget the amature spot & carpet cleaning over the years. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/June/2007 at 5:54pm
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Bissell with bleach... I've seen it a million times.
They but a little bleach to help brighten, and the carpet was way over wet. I bet 50 bucks I'm right...LOL ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 30/June/2007 at 9:30pm
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Great suggestions and ideas. Going to get one of those microscopes. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |