$64,000.00 Question?
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Topic: $64,000.00 Question?
Posted By: stevnlevine
Subject: $64,000.00 Question?
Date Posted: 07/May/2007 at 4:22pm
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I think I have the whole portable thing figured out after a week of re-searching here and at other related web sites. My conclusion is that a starter machine needs heat, at least 200-400 PSI, and a 3 stage powerful vacuum. My question is how many gallons per minute does such a machine lay out, and suck back up? In other words with a 12 gallon MYTEE (or other) how often do the tanks need emptying/refilling? I assume this emptying /refilling is the reason for truck mounts? So working at an average speed, say in a 1000 sq ft home. How many times will the tank need changing? Is this a huge pain in the butt, and is it the reason for truck mounts? Thanks in advance.
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Posted By: Thang
Date Posted: 07/May/2007 at 4:41pm
Dumping and refilling is a pain in the ass...BUt, its not the only reason to get a TM. Tm = More suck,more heat,faster cleaning and basically more of everything....
And emptying and refilling depends on how soil the carpet is and how much of a soaker are you.
Hope I helped some :) SO, I can be done with my good deed for the month.
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 10/May/2007 at 10:21pm
If you are using a Rotovac check the waste tank half way through a room. n They put a lot of water through the carpet. With a standard wand however you might get all the way through without refilling and dumping.
They do, I heard, make portables with refill and dump hoses so it is always being done for you. If I heard right anyway.
Someday when I have enough saved I will go TM. But, you got to start someplace so just start with the best.
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 11/May/2007 at 11:14am
From my own experience on all sides of these issues, I would have to respectfully disagree with your reasoning, Steve. And, hopefully in a helping way.
To me, my experience has proven that we are in the "extraction" business, literally. The word; Extraction is defined as some sort of; VACUUM.
Therefore, VACUUM---or the amount of it---is more important than anything else, period.
Keeping in mind also, that we are limited in the amount of energy (amps/watts) electrically, I will put more eggs in that VACUUM basket.
A single vacuum motor with 200 - 400 psi is not enough and will ultimately slow you down. "EXTRACTION" once again. And, you will indeed use MORE water; thus fill and empty machine more often!
I think common sense has proven to me that you want GREATER "EXTRACTION"--water coming out; than "PRESSURE"--water going in, in an effort to have much better results in terms of cleaner, long lasting carpets, greater soil recovery, and in cutting labor costs.
Looking back 35 years when I started, using a single 3 stage machine was a hugh mistake, IMHO and experience.
And, since I am still sitting here some 35 years later with some success, I would have to say that my opinion has been a proven one.
Finally, in the end, whatever decision you make, you will learn a lesson. And, hopefully, it will not be a detrimental mistake like the one I made.
The very best and hope my comments help in the final thinking process.
Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.
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Posted By: stevnlevine
Date Posted: 11/May/2007 at 11:21am
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I've signed up for the Carpet Cleaner class in early June. Hopefully this will help me make an equipment decision?
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Posted By: SERVICEMASTER
Date Posted: 26/May/2007 at 5:17pm
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Just to clarify - you can have all the vacuum in the world, but without airflow its nothing but a static negativ pressure - like holding a hand for your mouth while inhaling.
I use a greenglide, which significantly increases airflow - lift remains the same !
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