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duckcountry
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Tide is one of the weakest cleaners in your home. All laundry detergent requires extreme agitation to clean and are weak. On the other hand, ever left your dishes to soak in the kitchen sink? Now that is cleaning power. But use what you want, no one in my household really cares.
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Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity?
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Alexarz
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Maybe Tide would work fine if used as a pre-spray and rinsed out, just as it is intended to be used with clothing.
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Chay
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Nightrider use some commen sense, I have seen what tide can do to a carpet, the grease just sticks to it all that much faster. How do I know this? Because maybee I have seen it used! Actually had a guy who had the nerve to use old dutch on my carpet and kicked his butt to the curb ! When I told him the carpet was still dirty he argued with me and I called another company who re-cleaned my carpet and even without chemicals just to appease my suspicions the water came out dirty!! How can you call yourself a pro? |
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nightrider
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I must have been causing trouble if Ted got on board of this thread Always nice to read his input, and I agree General Lee should put his knowledge on the table regarding serface tension ( so I can poke holes in it ).
DietCoke, the day I wash my underwear with 600 psi and almost 300 degrees of hot water plus a cylindrical brush rotating at 150 rpm's , I guarantee you I will not use any detergent. Just to let you know I use Tide He for my clothes.....The same stuff I clean greasy restaurant carpets with.
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Michael
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Seemed like a strange point to bring up.
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Grutzy
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DietCoke
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Of course I feel ripped off nightrider. If money wasn't so important then people wouldn't have to stab you in the back to get it. People cheat, lie and steal just so they can put food on their table. Money makes the world go around...and so do the people that cheat, lie and steal.
Hey nightrider, how do your clothes smell after you wash them using only hot water? Does it remove the skid marks from your Fruit of the Looms? |
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Michael
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Does the ionic charge even matter if it just goes only in the waste tank?
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carpetologist
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When nightrider starts defaming marketing and sales it's time to bring back the 'Hide' commercial. Since ineffective cleaning products such as water-only will only 'Hide' the soil we should call it what it really is. In fact, so many professional carpet cleaners do just that on a regular basis. If the customer only understood they would feel ripped off.
Marketing and sales is what keeps the world churning and prospering. The funny thing is nightrider is the KING of marketing and sales and has all the answers when he is selling but he is too cheap and not willing to share his fortune when actually using products. Maybe we need General Lee to step in and teach us about surface tension to prove the worthiness of a good detergent. Nice to see nightrider sharpening his axe and coming back with his love and hate answers to our questions. |
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nightrider
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.....Maybe I have magic water, DietCoke if you would feel ripped off by me cleaning your carpet using only water.....how do you feel every time you put gas in your car, or do your income tax, how about when you have to buy pills or medicine, do you ever feel like you're getting ripped off then.
Look at every chemical you buy and the percentage of water is high 80's of % to 90's%. Look at the Diet Coke you drink 93% water.
FEEL RIPPED OFF YET, YOU SHOULD BE
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DietCoke
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I have to agree with Grutzy on this one.
Water alone can not possibly remove all of the uglies from a carpet (especially oil based matter). Knowing that nightrider uses only hot water to clean carpets I wouldn't hire him as my professional carpet cleaner. As a customer I would feel like I was getting ripped off. |
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Grutzy
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Nightrider, I'm with you on a lot of what you wrote but this is where the bus drops me off. There is no way in hell that you will get restaurant carpet clean with only hot water from a tap and no chemical. I have a Hydramaster Titan in my fleet and know how beneficial hot water can be in conjunction with good cleaning chemicals. Water is surely the means of travel but first the dirt, oil etc must be removed from the carpet fibers and suspended so water can haul it away. Chemicals serve this purpose and water alone won't do it.
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nightrider
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Grutzy... If you have a portable with an aggitator brush, go give a free demo at any Chinese restaurant and use only hot tap water, and see what happens . I have also used a Steamon Demon with only hot water, and the results were the same.....A CLEAN CARPET. Chemicals or soaps only suspend soil and grime for a short time period, the water is the carrier. I have cleaned hundreds of thousands of sq. feet of carpet over the last almost 40 years using only hot water.
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Grutzy
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Nightrider, while water is the main source of cleaning, it must be empowered with cleaning agents to work well. I agree with you about not being fooled by the industry chemical manufacturers but surely I would not want to use ONLY water to clean carpet.
Back to the subject, lets remember that red dye transfer chemical is mostly nothing more than ammonia. This is a perfect example. You can buy ammonia for $2 a bottle or buy the one from your distributor that sells for $35. I keep the two part red dye remover just in case the ammonia fails but more times than not, the result is the same for either one.
I'll be trying Tide this week for a general detergent thanks to your advice.
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