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Soil Lint Green
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One last thing, to make negative claims about a company's product including the action of repeating unsubstantiated claims is slander and if it can be proven to be detrimental to the subject of these claims then legal action including the involuntary satisfaction of the lawsuit plus legal expenses can be executed. If Ed's lawyers choose to do so, they could go after both of these freaks but they could also sue this board for its role in permitting the slander and that is a fact. To the two freaks from Too Many Freaks I say I suggest you seek legal advice. To Ed I can only suggest you have your lawyers consider cease and desist court orders with a demand that all relative posts be deleted immediately.
We can all be friendly here but the bottom line is BUSINESS IS BUSINESS. |
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Ed Valentine
Carpet Cleaning Specialist Joined: 14/September/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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Here's how creditable so called: "Tank" is Gentlemen:
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Alias: "Rich Tank" on the TM Forum 8-7-10 (another imposter)
His post in his words:
He spewed:
"I do not clean carpets professionally, So, I wasn't duping anyone (I never said I had a business, and always said I didn't know that much about carpet cleaning)."
This guy sure is a real authority (LOL!) in our business isn't he! It appears now that everyone knows his cover. His only proven purpose is to cause upheaval and discredit others. He always tells the truth even if he has to lie to do it!
But, then again, this character with all his positive-negative energy and talent can't be all that bad either. Because anyone who hates kids and dogs can't be all that bad, right?
I suggest that you rejoin your lapdogs on those two other boards because I'm sure you'll feel right at home.
Finally, you are very correct, Soil Lint Green, in regards to posting that BS on the boards by these irresponsible terrorists. We have a couple of very interesting things we are addressing at the moment because there IS repercussions for this. We will probably witness a couple of these guys crying like babies. Just waiting for a couple other "specifics" that guys like (alias) Rich Tank are moving toward. But, you are right, I hope they do not destroy this neat board!
Anyways, there are many many more GREAT Individuals in our Industry that would make all of us proud who relly over-shadow these few idiots.
Very best to all above;
Ed Valentine |
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Ken Harris
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My Opinion?
If a seller of equipment had to start a lawsuit everytime somebody took a shot at how well it worked, they would not have any time to make any or sell any to those that do want to buy them! I have been through this for years now. Eventually the critics go away and find better things to do with their time.Everyone is entitled to their opinion; even when they are wrong.
This too shall pass.
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CleanImage
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Good post Ken.
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Grutzy
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LOL. What a couple of dorks MrEd and his "Lawdog Lint" are. What kind of moron would try to suggest that there are grounds for a lawsuit based on what has been said in this thread? Are you some mountain drifter who is out of touch with the real world?
Mr Ed V, I have tried to be friendly and even helpful, albeit honest about your Recoil machine but you have continued to rant and rave like a teenager. I realize that the walls are crashing in on the image of the Recoil but that is because the truth is finally coming out and you will need to refine and develop it so that it is improved. Stop crying like a ranting lunatic and fix the damn machine and these nightmares will stop following you. Either that, or retire and let a progressive thinker fix the machine.
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TA152H
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Ed, Another temper tantrum from the effeminate junk maker? I've tried to stay at least cordial, but it's not too hard to throw insults as someone with a sub-normal IQ, that can't answer a question directly. Unlike you, I don't lie. I don't have a carpet cleaning business, but that's not to say I don't clean carpets, and have never been working in it. In fact, I own rental properties, and I do the carpets myself, and have relatives in the industry, who do own businesses. So, my interest is real, and it's only about finding the best equipment. Your motives are much less honorable. You talk in nonsense, and generalities. I made allowances for the fact you're a simpleton with roughly the mental processes of a bright German Shepherd, but that doesn't fully explain your unwillingness to answer questions, and talk without acrimonious replies. You clearly show you aren't about meaningful discussion and dissemination of information. It's all about sales for you, and since you lack a decent product (I do like your booster, but I am referring to the Recoil), you have to play these silly games and hope no one figures it out. But, Ed, your machine was weighed and measured and found wanting. It wasn't by me. It had slightly less power than a machine that could be bought for less than $1500, which also had a more solid body. When people said the machine was flawed, the forum owner offered to pay for another to be sent to him for testing. You never did that, huh, Ed? Why not? Also, flaw after flaw was pointed out. Again, not by me. So, man up and send a machine. I know this goes against your penchant for dissembling and evading, but, really, why not end the argument? I can answer that - because it would end with you losing. But, now post on about how you've been in business, or someone somewhere has an agenda, or someone is working for someone else. You just sound like a dotard. I'm asking you to accept a challenge to have your machine measured. How does that equate to your tirades from your tantrums? I'm not asking for anything unreasonable. You're acting unreasonably. |
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TA152H
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Ken, This fool is attempting to actually scare us, so we won't say what we think. It's always funny to have this type of person try manipulation, because it just makes them look silly. But, more to the point, why don't you tell us what you think of the Recoil. I already know this answer to this, but maybe other people would be curious. Be honest and let us know, if you don't mind. Do you think the numbers TMF came with were out of line? What do you think of Ed's, or any other Recoil owner's, unwillingness to send another, free of charge to be measured? What do you think of the body construction of the Recoil? What about his selection of vac motors? How about the booster? What's your feeling about what effect this has on lift? I wouldn't dare ask Ed all these questions, because he doesn't like to answer meaningful ones, but I know from talking to you, you are never afraid of questions, and like it when people challenge something you said. But, then, you're much more confident. |
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Grutzy
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Grutzy
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For the record, none of this is going to matter once the release of the Hurricane Harris M5 takes place, with 4 internal vacs and the power that no other portable can match. I can see Mr Ed's 4 legs shaking already.
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TA152H
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It's not clear to me that he has one to give, based on his disposition. There's one difference between Ed V. and Mr. Ed. Mr. Ed spoke with his mouth. Ed V seems to speak out the other end. |
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Ken Harris
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In the case of the Recoil others have pointed out the need for improvement in a number of areas. I did not find these facts to be unfair at all or some kind of conspiracy to get Ed or his company. To the contrary I believe the effort was to sincerly improve the machine to the betterment of all owners and operators of it. If accepted in that light this is an excellant opportunity to improve the product and make it stronger. In so doing it can only improve both it's sales in the marketplace and it's position as an asset within it.
But that's just how I see it.
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Soil Lint Green
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The two characters have a single agenda. They will be gone soon. I have owned equipment from Mytee. They don't make bigger and better machines with each new revolution. What they make are bigger pieces of crap.
Mytee is a yugo compared to the cadillac a recoil is. What I as a former owner of Mytee machines can attest to the only thing they suck is at being a good machine that doesn't break. How many vacs or pumps they use is not the issue when they use cheap parts. If you morons want to critique a machine or help with you 'valuable' input, then become a customer like the rest. A PAYING customer has an opinion that matters, not someone who fits the description of "Opinions are like A$$H0Le$....everyone's got one and most stink." Now, take your sorry a$$es back to Two Mutha Phuckas For Males. You obviously have nothing to post that anyone here believes come from sincere real carpet cleaning experts. But I'll just bet you are both the queens of TMF. |
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Grutzy
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Good God, one of them is going to blow and it's even money.
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Soil Lint Green
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Are you still here? You must be young and stupid.
If anyone is going to blow I would say it's you with your buddy there. |
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