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Steaminpile 
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 Topic: Porty shootout resultsPosted: 02/May/2009 at 6:18pm |
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that I can see,,,,,,,,,I was running 100ft. all week this week and I was getting excellent dry times.
but when I've tried 150ft,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I wanted more suction
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alexanderS
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Posted: 02/May/2009 at 3:34pm |
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I agree 175 feet without an inline power booster is stretching it. However I personally have gone over 125 feet with a Recoil 3HP with only 2" vacuum hose . I had a propane heater and good chems and the job turned out fine. It was not an easy one either. It was a home for the some developmentally disabled individuals . Food and beverage stains as well as pet problems.
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Steaminpile
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Posted: 02/May/2009 at 1:28pm |
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anyone using 175 feet off a porty without a booster(I don't care what model) is not doing a very good job and is kidding him/herself and their customer.
 I have an M5 and blowing breakers is not an issue if you actually look at the circuit indicator light before flicking the switches
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Posted: 13/April/2009 at 4:28pm |
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I know I have said this somewhere before, but everyone looks and talks-up vac power, pressure power and heat power more and more and more. And, once this high-powered brute is purchased it rapidly diminishes in power due to poor preventative maintenance. We see it daily in our service department. Filters do not get cleaned often enough diminishing air-flow. Heat exchangers do not get de-sclaed diminishing heat. Pressure regulators are allowed to leak-through and pumps hardly ever get oiled and greased properly. But, the biggest problem is that most machines purchased basically all come with the same wand made by the few wand manufacturers who pound them out cheap with very little thought as to the proper aerodynamics that a wand should have to be super efficient. Examples are: look at the wasted heat that rises from and above a wand when cleaning with high-heat. You pay extra in that truckmount to get extra heat and blow it at the wand level. A good wand should come corral that heat and use it on the carpet and not heat the air above it. Weld-burs on the inside trap lint and buildup beaver dams retarding air-flow. When was the last time you put a hangar up your wand and flushed it well? Think what water and air will do in a hurricane. The reason why someone has not designed a wand with hurricane simulations is because cleaners only want to pay $250 for a wand and not allowing inventors to produce close to perfection. Look at wands, 10 manufacturers have simply copied the first design of years ago. Very little resource and development and yet people like Rotovac and Hydramaster have developed rotary agitation wands to make the cleaners job easier. Few are sold compared to the blood, sweat and tears wands that tire you out and perform inconsistent cleaning. Like doug says…It’s only my opinion. |
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FriendlyHammer
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Posted: 13/April/2009 at 3:02pm |
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Only if I receive them.
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Posted: 13/April/2009 at 11:25am |
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Yes, but more importantly, will you ship them?
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alexanderS
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Posted: 13/April/2009 at 11:04am |
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I was wondering the same thing. 100% recovery is of course impossible. I can not see how this comparison is valid.
The 2 high performance portable/truckmounted extractors(Recoil 3HP vs Mytee M5) should have been compared as in a truckmount setting and then a portable setting.
For instance I would put only 25-50 ft of hose in a portable setting and 100-175 feet of vacuum hose in a truck or trailer mounted setting.
It of course would have been quite a bit more accurate if both machines were current model. The XPS 2nd generation series is different from the 3HP both in the vacuum and solution pressure/flow. The way the wiring is set up in the newer models will pass current United Kingdom codes. Wiring provides better and more consistant electrical flow to the components.
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FriendlyHammer
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15 gallon tanks and it was all picked up. If you believe that, I've got some Ultralip glides and some Turbotek ZX7 equipment to sell you.
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John L
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Posted: 13/April/2009 at 1:21am |
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Jive Turkeys..
 It's impossible.. 
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FriendlyHammer
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Posted: 12/April/2009 at 10:48pm |
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I'm just looking at the stats and wondering how any machine can pick up 100% of the water. That's just impossible. So the carpet was dry to the touch?
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alexanderS
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I am looking forward to having a 2nd Generation Recoil-XPS Super-Charged extractor. The former machine was awesome but with this extra kick of H2O" Lift will be extrememly powerful without blowing breakers.
I find it interesting how those who chase the CA Recoils , think in 1 demonsional ways.
Whereas Ed thinks and looks at things in a multidemonsional pattern. When you get a Recoil 3XPS 2nd Generation series ,you will have a good deal more suction . The Recoil 3s are friendly machines. You will not be blowing breakers because of the balance of his systems.
Instead of finding the most powerful vacuum motors out there and putting them in a new generation machine ,Ed not only attempts to get more performance without blowing breakers but attempts to make the Recoils a good overall experience.
So a lot of thought goes into the decision for which components go into the CA high performance machines. Hence CA extractors have high performance + ease of use + reliability and very high quality!
They are hand built. The wiring harnesses are like those machines(Scorpion) which of course must pass the UKs specifications. If a vac motor goes out then if you order the replacement Ed will send you not only the correct model but also ready to install. Wiring disconnects and snap on vac motor connectors make it an easy 30 minute task.
If opperated properly a Recoil 3 ### will serve you faithfully for many years.
I have had many conversations with Ed. Usually when we are talking on the phone I can hear him putting things together. When you think of it that way it should ease your mind as far as what kind of quality machine you will recieve.
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Ed Valentine
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Posted: 19/March/2009 at 5:20pm |
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Goomer;
Thanks for your kind comments.
Yes, common sense told us this so called; "Scientific testing" , if done at my University, would have fluked from many aspects. It was evident that the individuals in charge were not educated (nor did they ask) in the "why's & whatevers" of the product being tested. However, putting a 7 year old machine up against "their absolute best" was simply amazing. But, they did have their own agenda .......................and I thought our old machine came thru with flying colors.
And, YES, the 2nd Generation RECOIL-XPS Super-Charged Contractor Series , IMHO, is the absolute finest we have ever developed. So, I thank you for asking!
Ed Valentine
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Superglide Ken
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Posted: 19/March/2009 at 4:50pm |
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Too bad the Titan never got invited to that party. It would have beat all of em.John knows this, which is why it never got invited.
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Posted: 19/March/2009 at 4:20pm |
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Interesting..........But I think I'll wait for Kennys " Super Power Packed Hydro Force Turbo Sucking Pressure Spitting Portable " Nightrider
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