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Sodium hypochlorite?

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Originally posted by LilNiteRidrhood LilNiteRidrhood wrote:

There are certain rules of thumb that can be followed when in doubt.
However you should try removing tannin stains (acid) with a tannin stain remover (acid).
I was told by a large company here in Toronto they have cases of tannin remover on their floor and it will never be used.
Most use reducers on the furniture and oxidizers on synthetic carpet.
New generation of all natural cleaner coming. It is called an oxidizing prespray.But there will be no peroxide in the product.


Makes sense.  Jeff Cross e-mailed me and said the same thing.  He also asked if Kenny is in jail yet.
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shelf life will be???
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Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

shelf life will be???


A few hours at least
     

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cmaster-yep,denatured sodium hypochloite is an element of this new product
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Originally posted by LilNiteRidrhood LilNiteRidrhood wrote:

There are certain rules of thumb that can be followed when in doubt.
However you should try removing tannin stains (acid) with a tannin stain remover (acid).
I was told by a large company here in Toronto they have cases of tannin remover on their floor and it will never be used.
Most use reducers on the furniture and oxidizers on synthetic carpet.
New generation of all natural cleaner coming. It is called an oxidizing prespray.But there will be no peroxide in the product.


I understand acid removes tannin. I just don't understand why.

It seems to go against the general rule of removing an acid stain with an alkaline detergent.
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    I don't know of this rule which you are talking about. Rather I hear and have seen that most strong acids have a capability of removing colour in one way or another.
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Jeff Cross' guide says to remove acid stains with alkaline and alkaline with acid. This tannin issue appears to be the exception.
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use butyl...aint that right NR??
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Butyl and bleach. The only two you'll ever need

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I need a truckload of butyl.
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I love the smell of Butyl in the morning...............GOOD MORNING CARPET LAND
 
 
                                              
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Most soil is acidic.
But an acid stain?? One that won't come out?? What kind of stain is that?

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