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MR. STEAMER
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opclean and the great thing is your only going to get better. Padman is the best example 33 years of cleaning
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opclean
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Steamer your right. Practice makes perfect. At least thats what my wife tells me.LOL But i really think with a o.p machine you have a lot less chance of goofin up a carpet. They are very easy to get the results customers are looking for. I am a newbie at it and have had no complaints yet. I have got alot of tips when were walking out the door.
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Cleaning carpets is like a box of chocolate.You dont know what ya got till ya bite into it.
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MR. STEAMER
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Thats what I call professional....
I think when you first start you have to clean as much carpet as you can to gain knowledge and experience. don't be afraid to fail and get a call back from the customer because that is the only way you will ever learn. good thing we have msg boards around....if we have problems or need insight there is someone that will always shed some light. |
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opclean
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Steamer i did a job the other day and can tell you everything that kid had for lunch. Am i good or what.
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Cleaning carpets is like a box of chocolate.You dont know what ya got till ya bite into it.
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MR. STEAMER
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Padman people are affraid to see.. I would use an OP because I know what it can do.
practise and patients make a good job. the more you clean the better you get, if you are just a weekend warrior or you don;t get very many jobs no method is going to work 100% for you. A true cleaner has seen everything...all types of soil patterns...carpet types. I can tell many of my customer what goes on in their house just by looking at the carpet. no amount of tools can help you if you don't have the experience of how to use them. what ever your choice get out and get jobs only by failure will you ever become great Edited by MR. STEAMER - 20/March/2007 at 2:03pm |
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PadMan
Dr. Low Moisture http://ccsop.com Joined: 11/March/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1032 |
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1: WHo said anything about only cleaning with just a wand?? If he needs aggitation...a rotary will be more than enough. Therfore, No need for a RX. That is my point, MORE TOOLS, the TM won't do it by itself. 2: YOu take pictures of good and bad?? LMAO!! SHow me ONE pic. that you posted that was a "bad" Op job. That SHOULD be self explanatory 3: God comment??...HOw was that childish??...You should take it as a compliment. Btw, I can say god damn this and god damn that on here all day long and you still cant ban me (makes your blood boil dont it??!!). Wow, that makes you quite a man to be able to cuss... thanks for proving my point 4: ANd I guess youre the only one that truely "mastered" OP john?? SO, I guess all the padders that Ive talked to (from paddyland that you respect)that also depends on HWE havent mastered it yet??...Do we need to practice it for 30yrs. to be great like you?? No, several others have too, and yet I agree with Steamers comments, honest, truthful and shows thought and perspective on things. You on the other hand have a grudge, and you need to get over it. I am one method, but you must be able to imagine why, it is my JOB to deal with any situation using the method I sell, is it ALWAYS the fastest? NO, but for the many people who we put in business it is imperative that I can show them HOW to clean in any given situation. If they add tools, they CAN make thier jobs easier. Edited by PadMan - 20/March/2007 at 11:28am |
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MR. STEAMER
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bgray... I would play it safe and buy both.
padman is good at op because he lives it......I love my steam clean because I live it too.... I will tell you that both have their down falls....no method is the end all be all. if you pick one or the other I would say master it...but never close your eyes to another method. just be all that you can be with the tools in your box. I say add them all you can never have enough tools |
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carpetologist
The Great Hardini Hocus Pocus Joined: 20/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1712 |
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bgray22,
I have one of my OP Activators coming in on a trade this week. Customer claims he hardly used it. It will go up on this site under used equipment with price when it comes in. |
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Ninja-wand
Journeyman Joined: 03/June/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 427 |
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1: WHo said anything about only cleaning with just a wand?? If he needs aggitation...a rotary will be more than enough. Therfore, No need for a RX.
2: YOu take pictures of good and bad?? LMAO!! SHow me ONE pic. that you posted that was a "bad" Op job. 3: God comment??...HOw was that childish??...You should take it as a compliment. Btw, I can say god damn this and god damn that on here all day long and you still cant ban me (makes your blood boil dont it??!!). 4: ANd I guess youre the only one that truely "mastered" OP john?? SO, I guess all the padders that Ive talked to (from paddyland that you respect)that also depends on HWE havent mastered it yet??...Do we need to practice it for 30yrs. to be great like you?? Bottomline, Bgray...I advise you to talk to other cleaners that do both OP and HWE and get their opinions. DOnt just hear one side from salesmen. Edited by Ninja-wand - 19/March/2007 at 9:33pm |
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PadMan
Dr. Low Moisture http://ccsop.com Joined: 11/March/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1032 |
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Oh, pUhleEez JOhn!! WHat you just said above is just weak. First off all...WHo said he needed a RX?? Anywho, I bet that I can get this dude EVERYTHING (includes Chems galore)he needs for under 10k.
You know, without the other TOOLS, that cost as MUCH as OP, you will in NO WAY get as good of results, if you think a plain wand by itself is better cleaning, then you might not have been doing this too long. You ASSumptions of "selling more machines" is off base, I practice what I preach, I take pictures to show, (good and bad alike) of what I do, I can stand the muster on its own no matter what you THINK. That god comment was childish as well, I do this for a living, I master what I do, I have too to be successful, that only makes me a good padder, nothing else. If YOU mastered it, you would do the same, but sometimes HAVING to rely on this and that method, you NEVER master what you do. Some people are jacks of all methods, masters of NONE. |
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Ninja-wand
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"Ninja, buy a TM and then ADD all the TOOLS to make it do everything, add an RX, add a Turbo, add this and that and a LONG list of chemicals to clean with."-JOhn G.
Oh, pUhleEez JOhn!! WHat you just said above is just weak. First off all...WHo said he needed a RX?? Anywho, I bet that I can get this dude EVERYTHING (includes Chems galore)he needs for under 10k. I know how you like to compare prices between OP and a TM and try to make OP look like a GREAT deal. BUt, as you can see...Its not that much of a great deal. Ive talked to quite a few of Op cleaners and they all agree that OP has some short comings and one would need (at least a portable)to have HWE capability.BUt, JOhn is the only one that can clean EVERYTHING with only OP and has no problems EVER. I wish I can be a OP god like JOhn one day. Steemer is right...Maybe you should also admit that OP has somes flaws (like all systems).That would make it more realistic. Wait...But, If you did....You wouldnt be able to sell as many machines. Ahhhh, I understand now. |
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MR. STEAMER
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Padman ..You know as well as I do that there are none...you are a professional you'll always make it work,
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PadMan
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I'll be sure to post one when I have one Steamer, but don't have any to show yet! But I am a newbie, only done this 33 years, so I am sure there are a few I haven't seen yet, and when I get it, I will post pics of it... DEAL?
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MR. STEAMER
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I've seen the OP fail....I've seen hwe fail...I've seen the cimex fail...
Padman everyone knows your sucesses, show us some failures....it makes you more real. |
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