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MR. STEAMER View Drop Down
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27/January/2007 at 7:17pm

Thats where I think you are wrong Douguy...a lot of cleaners out here do good work...and it all depends on the need for money.

I know a guy with a portable machine...his goal is to make $500 a week
I've seen his work I know he does a good job...
 
he'll do 5 rooms hall and steps for $75  why???? because he doesn't need to make more.
 
he's not low balling he is just priced way less....upstealing isn't a part of his program it's just good honest cleaning..
 
Doug now that you have move to the front of the class...let me ask you this.....
 
How many cleaners from the GTA do you actually know???
 
there only a few on this board...I think I only know of Lee...would you call Lee a crook????
 
I think someone along the way has done you some wrong douguy we are not all rip off artist.
 
My room rate is not a loss leader...that is the chunck of the money I make.....I charge 12.50 per room for gard and 5 dollar per room for deo..
 
I ask I don't push.
 
and don't think the customers don't push back...they are always looking for deals even to last last minute..
 
WAKE UP!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pilediver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27/January/2007 at 7:51pm
Steamer a couple of things come to mind
Why not develop some higher end clients by buying the sales manager or owner of a furniture store or carpet store lunch. You build the relationship and also should get higher end customers. People in these situations are not comodity driven they are quality driven.

The other thing is that you could work closer to some of the better realtors. I think most of them are flakes but all you need is a few good ones. No doubt you are in a tough market.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27/January/2007 at 11:14pm
PD GTA is a place built on deals...like it or not thats just the way it is
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That's what I mean - go make some deals.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28/January/2007 at 9:55am
Mr. Steamer I guess we all have to do things that work where we operate. The thing that really bothers me is how you can offer a premium service well above the room chasers and still compete with them. when most of them hardly know if the water comes before the cleaner? I wish you luck as only you will know what is going to work in your service area?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28/January/2007 at 10:24am

Really and trully it isn't as bad as it seems here in the GTA its not like the states where 5.99 a room is the going rate.  The problem here is you have big companies like Sears and The Bay and Home Depot that charge too cheap for their service.

I've tried to charge .35 cents a sq ft...but it doesn't work...people have the mentality that "why should I pay you that SEARS doesn't even charge that much"
 
In the States Sears might be a joke...but in the GTA they are the ones that are getting most of the calls..
 
I don't think any company in the GTA can say they are booking 90 to 100 calls a day.
 
if you think of their job average of around $150....which I think now is a bit higher... thats 13 to 15 thousand dollars a day np. Just booked no upsells
 
think of a small area like Oakville Burlington...they make a min of 10 000 a week no matter how slow it is...
 
10,000 a week WOW for only 110 thousand homes..and 2 trucks
 
how many of us can do that???
 
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28/January/2007 at 11:02am
Mr. Steamer: At least we are consistant we have this debate at least twice a year. Low and behold we both seem to be around each time it comes up? In an 8 hr day 6 jobe @ $150.00 ea. That is about 3/4 of an hr from drive in drive out not including travel? If that is quality work I guess I am just tooo slow? I am not looking for an argument here I just can't seem to get this into my head the speed at which these jobs are done with 2 trucks?
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actually doug...most times the drive is no more than 15 maybe 20 mins max...
 
If you have a good booker it can make all of the difference...
 
most of my calls are 5 mins away..
 
when busy I start at 8am....
 
8-9
9-11
11-1
12-2
1-3
3-5...
 
thats your six calls
 
or
8-9
9-11
10-12
1-3
2-4
3-5
if you do the 7th call4-6
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Too full of a day for me??
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I thought you could do 20 drive bys in a day

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote G&M Cleaning Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29/January/2007 at 5:51pm
Enough already with the back and forth nonesence
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Where we going back to?
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The future?
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How come if we keep going back and forth we still get lost?
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