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Doug...have you tried it.....yes all this maybe good what your saying....But from the sounds of it you've never tried it....

Do you have a piece of old nylon carpet in the garage or basement...pull it out...divide it into two...clean one with regular carpet cleaning soap...and the other with a laundry detergent....and tell me if either side looks or feels different....

don't do anything different....

use the same dwell times...

use the same psi...

and the same amount of vac....

wait till it's dry...and then repost to me...

Don't repost until you've tried it...don't be scared....Laundry detergent very user friendly...I'm sure it won't bite....lol

my point is..... the make up is not much different than what you use now on carpet.....actually it's much safer because it has direct contact with skin....

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/April/2004 at 8:02am

Stanley:  I have not been in the converstaion for a long time.  But if you are going to change to carpet laundering you need to change what you think. 

1) You are using a slow activateing cleaner you need long dwell time and more water.

2) The rinse you definately need more rinse. It is the rinse cycle that cleans. The dwell time sespends the soil and the rinse removes it.  That is why if you don't use enough cleaner to syspend the soil and enough water to rinse the soil and cleaner out you have wasted your time

3) Example improper rince in your washing machine.  when the clothes dry the tide goes back to chrystles and your pockets are full with tide and dirt. Dishwasher. Dishes look clean but have a blue film

4) This i2 one you will understand.Shampoo your hair, don't rinse it wait a couple of hours and vaccuum the shampoo out. RINSE RINSE.  Thats is where tm units do marvalous the ability to use large amounts of water and extract it. DRYING TIME  is very important.  Very few consider the importance of the rinse.

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Originally posted by Jim Darling Jim Darling wrote:

Stanley

 

I would respefully disagree with you. While granulated soaps more than likey share some similar ingredients there are major differences betweeen most major brands.

They may share common things like sodium silicate or TSP or TSPP or NTA or NTA, the major differences are in the surfactant package that is used as well as the percentages of each. i would assume over the years you have tried different cleaning products - the ones that work better are the ones you stick with 

  Well Jim Chemical is what you sell...and if sold chemical this is what I would say to..  But I had my lab tech run it...run both...one laundry and one carpet cleaning detergent...the break down was very similar...I might not be as well versed in the correct property terms as you, but I know from what I speak..cuz I seen it.....See I like to cut cost... your Chemicals have a handsome mark up....very handsome if you ask me...

If you don't know what your looking for or who to talk to...I say  buy your chemicals off the shelf spend the extra...

If you know where to go...and who to see like me....I say save the extra....

I only copy from good chemicals...things I like to use...these are mostly custom made for me...using ingredients from the break downs...we test test test until I get something that works...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stanley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/April/2004 at 11:30pm
I totally Agree....these are strickly URBAN LEGEND.....I have never actually seen any of these work ...ahem ahem... old wives tales...young wives tails are much better...I here Ice cubes is the thing???
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PadMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/April/2004 at 6:19pm

Many of them do, but we must be professional and NOT EVER let the customer see we are using them. Professionals use professional products, but in a pinch it is GOOD to know what will save your tail..LOL

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mrclean_47 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/April/2004 at 5:12pm

how about the home remedy of using meat tenderizer on a blood stain

or white wine to remove red wine stains

or shaving cream on grease stains

go figure they probably work

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Originally posted by PadMan PadMan wrote:

WD -40 is great at removing gum!

Very true...has gotten me outta many jams.

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Use professional products, YES, BUT sometimes you get in a bind and don't HAVE  the chem on the truck, then someof these are very helpful to get through the job.

 

WD -40 is great at removing gum!

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Stanley

 

I would respefully disagree with you. While granulated soaps more than likey share some similar ingredients there are major differences betweeen most major brands.

They may share common things like sodium silicate or TSP or TSPP or NTA or NTA, the major differences are in the surfactant package that is used as well as the percentages of each. i would assume over the years you have tried different cleaning products - the ones that work better are the ones you stick with 

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Stanley is not too off the target there, I actually knew a Greek man that used to soak and take a bath in tide, and wash his hair with it too. So there you go. He looked alright to me.
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You can tell that they don't know what they are doing....brown fringes has nothing to do with tide...either does color bleed..yellow streaks or brittleness.....These are from incorrect rug cleaning...over wetteing...hot hot hot water...long drying times...not peroxiding the fringe...has nothing to do with the use of tide.....

Most granulated soap has basically the same chemical break down as tide...tide might not work as well...because It might not contain the amount of solvent agents and optical brighteners and softeners used in Carpet detergent.

But basically its the same thing...you can clean one mat with Chem spec formula 77 and one mat with tide.....you'd never be able to tell the difference

try it at home

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CLEANWORKS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/April/2004 at 2:13am

there is a very reputable carpet cleaning company out here that uses tide in their area rug cleaning machines.  their customers usually bring their rugs to me for correctional cleaning, ie brown fringes, color bleed, yellow streaks, brittleness etc.  USE CAREFULLY FORMULATED CARPET CLEANING DETERGENT.  IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY. 

PS.  their customers become my customers and i charge more money

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Tide????Tide????who uses Tide....not me....are you trying to ruin the industry Ted.  Tide is for clothes not for carpet.....I have a place called Al-Chem  out in brampton, that makes up my Dry Slurry knock off.  Which he did say has a lot of ingredients from regular laundry detergent.  I never said I use TIDE....

But if you think it will work I'll try it here at home on my own carpets....It's enviromentally safe, it easy on skin...it brightens.....it smells nice....I'm gonna rinse it all out with fresh water.....hell I think your onto something Ted. 

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Stanley ever since you said you used Tide I rushed out and bought stock in Proctor & Gamble. Keep shovling that stuff. I like it when you use lots.

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