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    Posted: 18/July/2006 at 7:47pm
What to do??? Red wood stain from a rocking chair bled on to a beige berber carpet.  Very attractive single is looking for a hero.  Need the best minds out there to brainstorm a solution for me.  One suggestion was to spray red relief on it and put a piece of plastic like sandwich rap on it and leave it overnight.  Does this sound logical? Can you buy red relief in Canada? Need your help!
 
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I think shes screwed... put I have gotten would stain out before with proxi...but it was fresh
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Do ya think?
 
Thanks Mr. Steamer,  tried proxi didn't work, stain isn't fresh.
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Stain Magic with a dci light for about 8hrs.
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Is the stain a dye or a varnish?

Is the yarn wool or synthetic?
 
If wool you have little to no chance,on synthetics you may be able to remove.
If its a dye it has probably set in but would try dye transfer test to see if that is the case.
If it is a varnish type dye you may be able to remove with a solvent.
 
Firstly it should be understood that there are several different kinds of varnish, so no one solvent will be ideal for all.
 
Next point is that many of the solvents will also be effective against latex compounds, so there is a risk of causing delamination on non-woven carpets. To avoid causing this damage, the products should always be indirectly applied - and sparingly.
 
Solvents that work will first soften the varnish to a gummy state. At this early stage it is often possible to remove much of the contamination with a bone scraper. Doing so, before the varnish is liquefied, will make total removal easier.
 
For heavy contaminations, pre-softening with steam can be useful but a coating of moisture can 'insulate' against solvents that are not water-missable so blot prior to application.
 
Possible solvents include P.O.G., Solvex, acetone, amyl acetate, d'Limonene and even a GOOD citrus gel.


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Thanks Paul,
 
The stain is on a synthetic (nylon) beige berber carpet and it's a red/cherry varnish, it's been there for about a month or so.
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berber toooo...eeewwwwww...forget it... red cheery varnish is almost impossible and with a month or so setting time..she can forget it..
 
maybe a good carpet repair guy....berber is tough to work with
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Nothing brings an evening down quicker than spilling something on a brand new carpet. Spilling can be the least of your carpet concerns because some stains can set in that are a little bit tougher than the ones that come from the refrigerator. Those stains - grease, candle wax, blood, paint and chewing gum - can easily ruin the life of a carpet. But with proper treatment, those stains and all evidence of the stain can be removed.

Casey O'Hanlon has been in the carpet cleaning business for more than 25 years. As the owner of the Austin Specialty Cleaners located in Austin, Texas, Hanlon has seen all kinds of stains and has different tips and pointers that will help any carpet keep its luster.

How does O'Hanlon deal with removing grease from carpet?

"It depends on the kind of grease," he said. "If its kitchen grease, natural greases, you will need a spot cleaner designed for carpeting. If its synthetic oil, something tracked in from a car or something, you actually need solvents to break it up. A product called Energene is excellent. You can get it at drugstores or Wal-Mart."

Another very difficult stain to remove from carpets is candle wax. O'Hanlon said that removing candle wax is tough, but can be done with ease if done properly.

"You should scrape up as much of the solid as you can," he said. "Then use a brown paper bag and an iron. Place the paper bag over the wax. Take the iron, on a low setting, and put the iron over the paper bag. Then you can slowly slide the paper bag along the wax. It turns the paper bag into wax paper."

As we all know, it's almost impossible to paint any room and keep it all on the walls. So for removing paint from carpet, O'Hanlon suggests using a wet-vacuum.

"If it's fresh latex paint, you should use a wet-vacuum," he said. "You should try to locate a wet-vacuum as quickly as you can because paint has massive amounts of pigment in it. Blotting will never get it up. You'll just be blotting for weeks."

"If it is enamel, you have got to blot it with a solvent, but be careful. You can't actually soak the carpet with the solvent because it will break down the back of the carpet. If the paint is left to dry, then there is nothing a customer can do because the solvents involved are very aggressive. You can actually damage the backing of the carpet."

Anyone who has kids has had to remove chewing gum from carpet.

"Ice cubes will generally work," O'Hanlon said. "Well, ice cubes would work in breaking it up, but it only works on certain types of carpeting. You can actually damage other types. The best bet is a solvent to break it down, like Energene. The Energene will work."

"There are other ideas as well," he added. "If you are stuck, believe it or not, baby oil or peanut butter will do it. But then you're stuck with baby oil or peanut butter stain. The peanut butter stain will come out with a carpet spotter. The baby oil stain would work with a carpet spotter as well, but you've got to use a formulated spotter for it."

And as for blood stains on carpet, O'Hanlon said it's simple to remove as long as it's the right type of carpeting.

"As long as it's not wool carpeting, you can dab it with household ammonia, and that will take up almost all of it," he said. "Just blot it with ammonia. For the last traces of blood, you can spray it 2 or 3 times with just a store bought hydrogen peroxide."

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Haven't I read this somewhere else?Shocked
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Once the varnish is cured, time is not an element untill such time as it becomes embrittled with age.
 
Consequently 5 days or 5 years in practical terms makes no difference.
Most of the varnish I remove has fully hardened. It is simply a matter of selecting a suitable solvent, controlling that solvent to prevent damage and using some patience as most varnishes take some time to fully soften.
Once the varnish has been removed there may still be some pigmentation transfer of the dye on the yarn,try removing this by heat transfer if the solvent has not already done so.Then fully wash out with a fresh rinse.
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Oh yeah.... you think so??? I doubt it...lol
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Mr Steamer I can see you are a very valuable asset to this forum. Not.
 
And just hope you are of more value to your customers.
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This is the dci light I was talking about Chessman. The light and stain magic are made by CTI I do not know if anyone sells there stuff in Canada.

Here is a site that sells the the light and has info on how it is used.

http://www.baneclene.com/catalog/energizerlight.html
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Paul...  I'm only talking from experience...I personally have never seen cherry wood stain come out of berber carpet EVER...
 
sorry... and I do at leats 1500 homes a year
 
you could try and get it dyed...maybe...maybe...
 
Paul if you can get it out I would refer business to you...if you didn't mind flying in from the UK
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